[s-cars] fog lamps w/o low beams

[LL - NY]

I had run my 4KQ with no lows and fogs, as well as my A2 GTi
that way, when the weather demanded it (often when I lived in
the snow belt), and being able to run w/o lows truely does help.
I will admit, the US projectors are "less" of a problem than the
old traditional reflector low beams, but they still cause glare. That
being said, there real issue (through experimentation) seems
to be, at least in this area, fog. Surprisingly, in moderate snow
(which around here is all of the time) I have found with the
9011's, the extra reach of the H-beams seems to overcome
the glareback off of the falling snow, especially if you are looking
ahead (which you HAVE to do here because of the deer!). If I
hadn't tried it, I wouldn't believe it. Still, I'm hoping to figure out
the fog trigger pin on the relay and wire it to ignition switched
+12V. The Bentley CD hasn't helped me here, as it seems to
just send all of the non-grounded pins to the "Headlight Controller" 
blackbox. Great. Whatever happened to good old fashion relay logic?

LL - NY


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:50:14 -0600, Varon H. Fugman
<vfugman at globaldialog.com> wrote:
> 
> >> BTW, the performance of these fogs in true glare situations would be
> >> greatly improved if they could be switched on without the US required
> >> low beams also being on.
> 
> >In really bad weather conditions, even low beams are detrimental to
> visibility-
> 
> I certainly agree with the previous sentiments, although the Z-beam style
> cutoff on the low beams makes them far less detrimental that most low beams,
> since less light is being projected up high only to be reflected back in
> your face from the particles of fog/dust/rain/snow.
> 
> I had 7" round Ciebie z-beam lamps in my old Land Cruiser which were
> fantastic... never felt the need to add fog lamps after I installed the
> Ciebies.  Every car I've had since has had terrible low-beam lighting by
> comparision... until the S6.  Even the US-spec OEM lamps in the S6 are
> pretty good (when the lenses are clean.)  In fact, they are so good I'm
> amazed they got DOT-certification!
> 
> Nonetheless, it would be useful to operate fog lights w/o the low beams
> during heavy fog, etc.
> 
> There are some states (such as Wisconsin) where it is legal to operate fog
> lights w/o low beams when conditions require.  IIRC, Wisconsin code mentions
> severe fog, rain, dust, or snow as conditions under which operation of
> "auxillary foul weather lamps" w/o headlights is acceptible.
> 
> Varon
> '95 S6 can't run fog lights w/o low beams... yet!
> 
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