[s-cars] Re: Mr. Hull bids adieu to the s//S2

[Elijahallen92 at aol.com]

When I bought my es2 project coupe from a guy in Canada I found out the  hard 
way on importing and this was just from Canada but since in 91 the Coupes  
here had airbags and over there they did not, the car did not comply and AOA  
would not give me a letter so I was stuck with a canada car that could not be  
driven on the street unless I added a full airbag system and had the car  
federalized. Needless to say, at this point the car has just been a project  track 
car but if I decide to ever sell it I'm pretty much up sh*t creek unless I  
sell it back to a Canadian.
 
Elijah
 
 
In a message dated 6/17/2005 7:04:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,  t
44tqtro at gmail.com writes:

Chris-
You need an affidavit from Audi of America stating that the  S2 that
you're trying to import is basically the same as a Coupe Quattro  and
that it meets all DOT safety standards. I seriously doubt you  or
anyone else, for that matter, can get that from AoA.

Ferrari  won't do it even for the 360 Modena, although they're doing
"world cars"  now- all cars conform to the DOT/TUV/etc. standards for
all markets in  which the cars are sold- much easier to produce cars
that way.

You  think it's easy to pass the EPA emissions test? Have you ever done
this-  it's much more involved than a state emissions test and they do
a visual  inspection as well- you must have appropriate emissions
equipment  installed, regardless of whether you believe or not that the
car will pass  without it.

If you haven't done this or at least known someone to do  it, you
really don't understand what you're getting into. Having talked  to
several people about the process, I would not even attempt to do  this
unless I was seriously wealthy and didn't care about the time  and
money involved in doing this. The Audi S2 is not a car that  you'll
have much success with. I'd rather import a BMW 850CSi, Alpina  B10
Biturbo, Porsche 993 3.8RS or something like  that.

Taka


On 6/17/05, Chris Hall  <badcomrade at gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently what you need is the  following:
> 
> An HS-7 Declaration form (available at ports of  entry or online).
> 
> Cars less than 25 years old must comply  with all applicable Federal
> motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS) to  be imported on a permanent
> basis.
> (Vehicles manufactured to  comply with the FMVSS will have a
> certification label affixed by the  original manufacturer in the area
> of the driver-side door. )
>  
> A vehicle without a certification label cannot be imported as  a
> "conforming" vehicle.
> In this case, the importer must  contract with a Registered Importer (RI) to
> 
> ********   modify the vehicle and post a DOT Conformance Bond in an
> amount  equivalent to one and a half times the vehicle's dutiable
> value.  ********  (ouch!)
> 
> This bond is in addition to the normal  Customs entry bond (which is
> what... 3%?).  Copies of the DOT  Conformance Bond and the contract
> with an RI must be attached to the  HS-7.
> 
> "If the petitioned vehicle is not similar to one sold  in the U.S.,
> this process can become very complex and costly."   Well, that S2 is
> "similar"... Doesn't say IDENTICAL... so who cares  about the core
> support... lol.
> 
> 
> So that's  pretty much it (other than the EPA part, and really... how
> hard is it  for a car to pass emissions... my Coupe GT did it with no
> cat   lol.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/17/05, Taka  Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Chris-
> >  Have you tried to get Audi of America to send you an affidavit stating
>  > that the S2 is significantly similar to a US-spec car (forget the
>  > official name of the document)? Good luck.
> >
> > The  rad support and some other parts are significantly different from 
the  CQ.
> >
> > Cars older than 25 yrs. are now virtually  unrestricted.
> >
> > Have you even ever talked to an RI  about doing this? It's not as
> > simple as you make it out to  be.
> >
> > Taka
> >
> >
> > On  6/17/05, Chris Hall <badcomrade at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well  like I said, that car is pretty much the exact same body that was
> >  > used on the U.S. Coupe Quattro, so as far as that part is  concerned
> > > (which is a big part), that shouldn't have stopped  it from coming in
> > > since they were approved for U.S.  roads.
> > >
> > > The only other 3 things I can think  of that can stop a car from being
> > > imported are: #1 the  manufacturer decided they don't want to
> > > #2 something was on  the car that didn't allow it to meet U.S.
> > > emissions specs  (and could be modded / detuned to allow it to pass
> > >  inspection...)
> > > #3 there were some DOT safety issues... type  of headlights, and all
> > > the other minor stupid crap that has  to be changed for the U.S. market
> > > which again, could  probably also be taken care of for way way less
> > > than  $30,000.
> > >
> > > I've seen TONS of cars here in  the Chicago area that were never
> > > imported in to the US for  one reason for another, so it's not like
> > > it's a wild  idea...  I was behind a right hand drive E type today on
> >  > Lake Shore Drive in fact lol.
> > >
> > > Plus  like I said, every once in a while one of the Quattro Sports in
> >  > this country go up for sale (usually around $90,000-$100,000) so  that
> > > would have been easier (and waaay more of an  investment) than paying
> > > someone to do all those mods he had  done to make a "better than
> > > average" S2.  Not to  mention it'd smoke the S2  lol
> > >
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 6/17/05, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  > If the car is not importable, then it really doesn't matter what  the
> > > > car costs outside of the US (for people in the US,  that is).
> > > >
> > > > Taka
> > >  >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/17/05, Chris Hall  <badcomrade at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > So he stopped  counting at $60,000 to make a "fake" S2.  If the 
-real-
> > >  > > S2's are going for $10,000 - $15,000 U.S.   What would it  cost to
> > > > > import it here and have it made DOT  legal?  Certainly not 
$60,000....
> > > >
> >  >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chris  Hall
> > > badcomrade at gmail.com
> > > "making girls  cry since 1974"
> > >
> >
> 
> 
>  --
> Chris Hall
> badcomrade at gmail.com
> "making girls cry  since  1974"
>
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