[s-cars] list wisdom request: clutch woes

[Sean Douglas]

Sounds like either a bad clutch master or slave cylinder. Yes, the
internal seal can go on either and not show any external leaks. Also,
the clutch rod at the MC can snap (BTDT) or the mounting point at the
pedal itself can break.

I'd recommend getting a new MC rather than used. The amount of time
required to re/re this negates any savings of used parts over new.

Sean Douglas
1997 Audi S6//RS2-spec
1990 Audi 90 quattro 20v


> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com 
> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of brian hoeft
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:43 AM
> To: s-car-list
> Subject: [s-cars] list wisdom request: clutch woes
> 
> 
> so i was left once again with the suction cup to the floor 
> type clutch pedal 
> action this morning... thankfully in between shifts, i felt 
> the drop then 
> mumbled fhk,ckskr,mthrfkr,fck,snfa,fck,mthrfk!!!!!
> 
> so im 'hypothesizing' clutch master cylinder... slave 
> cylinder is new as of 
> last summer. and please please correct me if im wrong, but 
> the symptoms of 
> throwout bearing failure are not that of a hydraulik system failure, 
> correct?
> 
> i have a t/o bearing, guide sleeve, spring and bushing i just 
> received for a 
> noisy t/o bearing i planned on replacing when i have to drop 
> my exhaust 
> anyways to replace the cat to cure my boost issues. but i 
> dont think if it 
> failed (t/o bearing that is) i would have this type of pedal 
> symptom. am i 
> wrong? could it be the t/o bearing?
> 
> clutch master; doesnt look leaky initially from removing the 
> panels below 
> it, but leaks can be internal and not visible always correct?
> 
> if its a hose, well i have them used and willing to make due, 
> but i dont 
> think using a master cyl with 100k is worth it being that 
> this could happen 
> again, and its a real pain to swap.
> 
> special thanks to chris semple(force5) for almost selling me 
> the MC... i was 
> on the road and wound up being towed to a shop that im 
> friendly with. so 
> being that they're going to let me use their lot to wrench 
> myself, i figured 
> the least i could do was respectfully pay them to get me the 
> part... & while 
> im at it also, im going to utilize their press to replace my 
> wheel bearing.
> 
> so it kinda works out, for now,, im just hoping it is the MC, 
> i can swap it 
> tomorrow, get the bearing pressed and still make it to h2o.
> so whats my point??? i guess,, anybody have helpful advice 
> for things to 
> know about MC replacement?, could it be the T/O bearing? or 
> any other words 
> of wisdom?
>  maybe keep a lookout for the whole story with pics on 
> audiworld...  thanks, -brian 
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