[s-cars] Toyo Tires - T1-R or T1-S

[docwyte at comcast.net]

993/996/997 are all rear engine, rwd cars.  The NSX has serious toe issues, hence it's tire appetite.  I can get 20k miles out of a set of S03's, I expect about the same from the 615, as that's what it's marketed as.  I've gotten 8-10k miles from RA1's, if I wanted an R tire, I would've bought one.  I expect more from a street tire.  If Falken wants to rename the 615 the 615R, then I'll know what to expect.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> 
Considering that a Porsche 993/996/997 can do a pair of 295s in 5k miles and a NSX can kill A022s
in about that time, all of these being much lighter cars by several hundred pounds, it's not that surprising.

You're buying a gumball tire- are you that surprised that the tire longevity is poor? Tire longevity and grip 
are not complementary factors in tire design.

How do you know that RA-1s would last longer- have you run them on the street in the same conditions?

If you want more longevity, I'd recommend something more street-oriented, like the Goodyear F1-GSD3 or 
Continental Sport Contact 2.

7-10k is all I'd expect out of a set of RE-070s on my car, the RT-615s are a similar type of tire. A friend of
mine got 7k out of a set of Bridgestone RE-011s, which are an OE summer tire on a sport sedan, not 
designed as a gumball tire, but he drives hard. Another guy I know got about 8k out of a set of
SP8000E on his A4 1.8T.

Taka



On 1/29/06, docwyte at comcast.net <docwyte at comcast.net> wrote:
I'm sure that is a contributing factor, but 8k miles is pretty weak.  

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Taka Mizutani < t44tqtro at gmail.com> 
It probably doesn't help that you're driving a relatively heavy car on those tires.

Taka



On 1/28/06, docwyte at comcast.net < docwyte at comcast.net> wrote: 
I have the Azenis 615's on my street rims for the '01 S4 right now.  Good tire, but I'm *very* disappointed with the wear!  I did one DE (a gentle one) and 2 auto-x's on em, otherwise all street miles.  At 8000 miles, they're almost down to the wear bars.  With that kinda wear, I'd rather have gotten Toyo RA-1's, which would've lasted just as long and been far better for DE's and auto-x.