[s-cars] The Audi as a Fiat

[calvinlc at earthlink.net]

Oh, I am sure it does add downforce.  But there is a tuning that has to be
done between downforce and drag...I wonder if Subaru did that.  My guess is
no.  Do the rally cars run the same size rear wing?  Maybe at speeds under
100 the trade is favorable for the size wing you have, but at higher speeds
I'm sure it falls apart.  It depends on what the application is.
Spoiler/wing tuning is just as important as spring tuning if you are serious
about racing.

Joe:
As far as blinders go, I love these little cars.  And remember, I have no
Euro pretentions...hell my fastest car is a GM product that is 34 years old!
For my purposes my UrS does a better job for me than the pocket
rockets...however, if I had a space (and money) for more than 5 cars I would
certainly consider one of these little guys.  I am personally partial to the
EVO's styling a little more, but like the extra 0.5 liters of displacement
in the STi.  However, that doesn't mean that there are "features" on each
one of them that I think are ludicrously dumb :)

--Calvin

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Taka Mizutani [mailto:t44tqtro at gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:32 PM
  To: calvinlc at earthlink.net
  Cc: LL - NY; s-car-list at audifans.com; Steve Voit
  Subject: Re: [s-cars] The Audi as a Fiat


  Yes, but that big wing does actually make downforce at speed, same thing
with the Evo. It's not
  a tack-on APC wing that some kid bought at Pep Boys.

  Taka


  On 7/20/06, calvinlc at earthlink.net <calvinlc at earthlink.net> wrote:
    >I think the Legacy can go, don't know if it's a gearing issue or not-
the
    >STi seems to run out of steam

    It might have something to do with that Oh-So-Aerodynamic rear wing....I
    don't quite understand why the manufacturer's of cars like the STi think
    that is a must.  Let junior spend $500 more of daddy's money if he wants
a
    rear wing and let the rest of us buy the car for the performance it
offers.
    I think there is a group of people out there who thinks the more plastic
    crap you put on a car the faster it goes....it's kind of like we used to
    joke at the dragstrip with the guy who had 15 decals on the car...I
think
    the going rate was like 0.1 seconds per decal :)

    --Calvin


    -----Original Message-----
    From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
    [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com ]On Behalf Of Taka Mizutani
    Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 7:35 PM
    To: LL - NY
    Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com; Steve Voit
    Subject: Re: [s-cars] The Audi as a Fiat


    Nah, definitely no Ikea runs with an M Coupe. :-)

    I didn't feel the refinement of the Legacy GT being all that bad, just a
    difference in opinion coming
    from a guy with a tank, a girly tank and two tin cans in the house.

    I think the Legacy can go, don't know if it's a gearing issue or not-
the
    STi seems to run out of steam
    around 120-130, I don't know how long it took them to get to 150. I
think
    the Germans have the edge
    there, but in the US it's almost academic.

    My friend's 635CSi felt really slow until you got past 85, then it felt
    pretty darn nice.

    Then again, I've seen a '01 Mustang Cobra go well past 140 without
really
    any loss of acceleration, just
    kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller (I was in the 200 at the
time).

    Taka


    On 7/19/06, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com > wrote:
    >
    > Unfortunately, I don't think I could've done my Ikea runs with an
M-Coupe
    > successfully. When I bought
    > the Saabaru, I knew it was a compromise. For pure driving, I really
    > would've preferred a Miata or a Cooper S.
    >
    > As for the Legacy GT comment on the earlier post, in terms of road
feel,
    > it's actually pretty good, sort of like a lighter on it's feet Stage 1
    UrS,
    > a little better bottom end, notably weaker at the top end (well, as
far as
    I
    > was comfortable testing on theh test drive. Lets just say, dipped into
    three
    > digits a ways). But the refinement really isn't there. Still, a
potential
    > substitute.
    >
    > LL - NY
    >
    >
    > On 7/19/06, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Well, other than the AWD aspect, you could have gotten an M
Coupe.....
    > > :-)
    > >
    > > Much more practical than a Miata. :-)
    > >
    > > Taka
    > >
    >
    >
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