[s-cars] MRC Chip = Red Rocket!

Postupack, Jeff Jeff.Postupack at analog.com
Fri Mar 10 12:30:35 EST 2006



Brian, Emre,

The 1.8 BAR, or [1.9BAR spring depending on who's Marketing you read] 
... is tempting, Lord knows I've installed one in the '93 and feel the
same initial WOOT!
It is a thrill but frankly I don't really know what I am trading off.

BTW: The 034efi spring is painted with Yellow markings, Brian and is
shorter than the OEM spring.

The beauty of 'Tha List' is the experience and technical analysis that
traverses many years of trial and error, testing and proof. I enjoy that
sentiment because I've found no other 'forum' that blends innovation
with sound mechanical basis. 

This experience has saved me from suspect mods that offer low cost MAX
gains at the detriment of the machine. I want to drive my S car a long
time so reliability is paramount. (Should I take that spring outta there
and sell it?)

Not to say this WG spring _is_ that suspect, I think the jury is still
out! I don't really have proof in a technical sense. This is similar
reasoning to why 'Tha List' may not endorse TAP methods in a big way.
BTDT, toss it aside.

Before you pop that spring in there and roar around at WOT, I think it
might be beneficial to see
who else responds with technical basis. Pro or Con. (No offense intended
Emre!, where's the analysis that might intrigue Mr. Dawson?)

I call to your attention those responding positively WRT to this mod
suggesting it's "choose your adjective" and those who are not.

It may be peculiar that Hap, Dawson, Pederson, Payne, Ackley, Charlie
Smith, Trevor, Amoroso, Taka, B Rossato, Elijah and many other people
I've come to respect are not replying. These guys use more than the Butt
Test to qualify a mod.

Seems to me that 1.8 BAR spring is changing the feedback control system,
and as such, the ECU should know about it, No? 

Hopefully this mod proves harmless because there is a market frenzy
buying these $40 things. 
BTW: About 6 years ago Charlie Smith rolled a few of these springs and
offered them FS at $10. 
My oh my has inflation hit again? Charlie has BTDT. For example, his
website is the source of much history, I want the 'founders' to get the
credit here, not Audiworld.


Wisdom. A young Bull and and Old Bull stand on top of the hill
overlooking a herd of heifers. 
The Young bull says, "Hey lets run down there and bang one of those
cows"!
.. Pause.. The Old Bull says" Nahh.. Let's Walk down the hill and bang
'em all"

Flame retardant suit is on!

Posto





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:40:25 -0500
From: Brian Armstead <barmstea at IBB.GOV>
Subject: Re: [s-cars] MRC Chip = Red Rocket!
To: Emre Washburn <yumyjager at gmail.com>
Cc: S-Car <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Message-ID: <44119DE9.ED787B6D at IBB.GOV>
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Thanks Emre!

Brian

Emre Washburn wrote:
> 
> Brain,
> 
> No drawbacks here, but if there is a weak spot in your ignition system

> (coil, POS, etc.) the new found boost will find the weak link.
> 
> This is the spring I have in my car, it's na MTM unit:
> 
> <http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/YumyJager/auto/MTM20vwgspring.jp
> g>
> 
> 034EFI's unit shoudl be similar/same.
> 
> --
> Emre
> 92 //S4
> 90 Cq
> 40 valves 'O plenty!
> 
> On 3/10/06, Brian Armstead <barmstea at ibb.gov> wrote:
> > Emre,
> >
> > I have a stiffer srping from my type 44 days.  It's got light green 
> > paint markings on it.  Do you remember what color the markings are 
> > on the spring you recommend?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Emre Washburn wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, if you want some more kick in the pants, install a stiffened 
> > > wastegate spring, like available at www.034motorsport.com and 
> > > unleash some more power, penny investment, dollar return.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Emre
> > > 92 //S4
> > > 90 Cq
> > > 40 valves 'O plenty!
> > >
> > > On 3/10/06, Brian Armstead <barmstea at ibb.gov> wrote:
> > > > Fellow listers,
> > > >
> > > > Finally got a chance yesterday to install my MRC modified ECU.  
> > > > I've owned a few turbo Audis, but this is the first I've ever
had chipped.
> > > > The ECU removal procedure was simple.  Word of caution though, 
> > > > if you've had any high end stereo gear installed, make sure 
> > > > there are no wires underneath the carpet before you do the 
> > > > mandatory cutting to access the ECU.  My brain switched on at 
> > > > the last minute before cutting (a rare
> > > > occurrence!) and I found a ton of wires right in the path of my 
> > > > intended cut.
> > > >
> > > > Working with Bob Myers is straightforward and easy.  He's a real

> > > > pro and keeps his word on when you will get back your ECU.  
> > > > Thanks Bob for your professionalism and making your number 
> > > > available in case I got stuck with ECU removal.
> > > >
> > > > As for the mod itself:  YEEEEE HAH!  I know I'm not telling most

> > > > of you anything, as a lot of you have even more powerful cars, 
> > > > but I could not believe the transformation.  The redline comes 
> > > > FAST, and you can feel the power come on even harder mid range.

> > > > It's quite an upgrade for the buck.
> > > >
> > > > The Stromung exhaust sounds even sweeter now!  I highly 
> > > > recommend chipping to those who have not done it yet, and I 
> > > > highly recommend Bob and his MRC chips.
> > > >
> > > > All I need now is to get some BIRA brakes on the car, and I'll
be set.
> > > >
> > > > NAC - Consumer Reports will be on my XM program tonight.  
> > > > Channel 169 at midnight eastern.  They'll talk about the 2006 
> > > > Car Buyers Guide and how they come up with the rankings.  I was 
> > > > in CT at their headquarters (freezing my a$$ off last week) to 
> > > > see their road test facility.  Very impressive.  866.801.8255 if
you'd like to join in.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > > Fast 93 S4
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> > > >
> >


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