[s-cars] On the Road Again - Sorry

calvinlc at earthlink.net calvinlc at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 27 20:55:17 EST 2006


>You may not be trying to throw rocks... but really you are.  Again, you are
one of many folks on this list who routinely post a doubting reactions to
someone else's facts, >as demonstrated by a dyno test.  Why?  Do you think
Hap is lying?

Dave,

Boy oh boy...this is why I hate e-mails about what seems to be a sensitive
topic.  I must have said something in one of my e-mails that is construed
differently than I meant it to be....I'm sorry.

Let me say one thing in defense, though.  I think I have been thrown into a
grouping of people with which I don't belong.  I have purposely stayed away
from this dyno debate in the past, because it's just not that significant.
I have deleted hundreds of posts on this topic without even opening them.
Maybe my memory is incorrect...I don't know.....

Why on earth would I think Hap is lying?  He, along with the rest of the
people on this list, have never been anything but nice to me and I have no
reason to doubt anyone's credibility.  Questioning numbers in an equation is
not questioning someone's integrity......if this was the case at my job we
would have a 100% failure rate and everybody would constantly be mad at each
other.

Since I have not been privy to all of the conversation that has gone on
(reference deleted e-mails above) I may have posed some questions that were
already covered ground.  That being said, I don't think it should be
considered "bad" to question results/numbers/statistics, etc.  It certainly
shouldn't be construed as an attack of any sort.  I am always trying to
learn, and a lot of times I learn by posing questions and debating answers.

Dave, I am truly sorry if I said something that infers I think anyone here
is lying.

>Enough with the pissing contest about who understands Corky Bell better.
Who cares?

Ian,
If this was written in response to my e-mail I have most certainly left you
with an impression I did not mean to leave.  If I knew 10% of what Dave and
others on this list know about turbocharging I would be happy.  I am no
expert here and certainly am not trying to do anything more than learn, and
sometimes I do that by debating.  My engine building and drag racing
experience has given me a good bit of knowledge about normally aspirated
engines and I am only trying to reconcile my database in this area with
others' knowledge banks on this list in regards to highly boosted S-cars.

I apologize profusely if I have in some way offended any of you....it is
never my intention on these boards to do that...especially to a group of
individuals like exists on this board that are so helpful to one another
(and to me for that matter).

--Calvin



  -----Original Message-----
  From: Djdawson2 at aol.com [mailto:Djdawson2 at aol.com]
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:53 PM
  To: calvinlc at earthlink.net; CaptMagu at aol.com; joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com;
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  Subject: Re: [s-cars] On the Road Again


  In a message dated 3/26/2006 6:56:51 PM Mountain Standard Time,
calvinlc at earthlink.net writes:
    Really?  You think so, Dave?  How does it get that extra efficiency?
Given
    a constant 7 psi and similar flows the only difference is the
temperature.

  And the efficiency of the compressor itself.  Hap's results are consistent
with another local running a 2.5.  He posted 384whp running 14psi.  He then
turned up the boost, and smoked his Centerforce clutch on the dyno before
the pull could complete.

  You may not be trying to throw rocks... but really you are.  Again, you
are one of many folks on this list who routinely post a doubting reactions
to someone else's facts, as demonstrated by a dyno test.  Why?  Do you think
Hap is lying?  Some of us have gone to absurd lengths to end the debate...
but it continues.  I validated with reasonable certainty that our "CO" dyno
results are factual... not inflated.

  Dave


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