[s-cars] SOURCE needed for 45or47 high Z , bosch or siemens
Alvin Labonite
alabonite at gmail.com
Tue Oct 17 12:43:58 EDT 2006
I am running MRC RS2 btw and so does Tim.
Tom, didn't you switch to RS2 injectors? for what reason?
On 10/17/06, Tom Mullane <tmullane at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alvin,
>
> This is why I took little stock in the comments on AW. It's difficult to
> separate the injectors from the software using when looking at anecdotal
> "data". No saying it isn't useful, but it is hard to draw firm conclusions.
>
>
> Tom
>
> On 10/17/06, Alvin Labonite <alabonite at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just installed my D/L intjectors last night and obviously i have not
> > had the RS2 or replicas before so I couldn't compare the idle difference.
> > But one of these days I will take it for emissions test and see. Wasn't the
> > people that initially did the testing were from CA which has stricter
> > emission requirements?
> >
> > Tim (repeater on AW) on the other hand said he passed with flying colors
> > in TX.
> >
> >
> > On 10/17/06, Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > tom,
> > >
> > > your timing was good, because injectors and chip are next on my
> > > shopping list. it's pretty hard to find things in the archives now,
> > > so i'm glad you asked the question.
> > >
> > > craig, are the delphi injectors actually that poor or just not
> > > designed
> > > for this application?
> > >
> > > -t.
> > >
> > > --- Tom Mullane < tmullane at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry to revisit the issue, folks. I had seen the AW posts, but
> > > usually
> > > > take little stock in AW; this list is much more technical and
> > > generalities
> > > > do not stand long here without challenge. I must have slept through
> > > Brian's
> > > > posts. Due to unrelated I dumped my Delphi injectors and related
> > > chipset a
> > > > year ago in favor of the "real deal" - RS2 injectors. No issues at
> > > > emissions in CT.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > On 10/17/06, lebakken1 at netzero.net < lebakken1 at netzero.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom asked:
> > > > >
> > > > > Inconsistent spray with the Delphi injectors?
> > > > > Did I miss something?
> > > > > Can someone provide a link or info?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom - the main info is from an email from Brian Powell about a
> > > three
> > > > > weeks to a month ago. He did some testing with the new 034 RS2
> > > > > equivalent injectors, as compared to Delphi. There are issues with
> > > > > the Delphi injectors, physically, with the nozzle design, and also
> > > > > perhaps internally with the solenoid performance and its
> > > compatibilty
> > > > > with Bosch Motronic input. The result is poor performance at light
> > > or
> > > > > no engine load, with excess fuel being delivered, and subsequent
> > > OXS
> > > > > derived CEL's. There is probably excess fuel (or poorly atomized
> > > > > fuel) being delivered under load as well, as evidenced by sooty
> > > rear
> > > > > bumpers.
> > > > >
> > > > > The biggest problem comes when you have to get the car through
> > > > > emissions - and can't. I had to put my stock injectors back in,
> > > limp
> > > > > out to the car butt sniffers, pass the car with flying colors, and
> > > > > then but the Delphi's back in to get it to run properly with the
> > > RS2
> > > > > programming.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a bad feeling when I was putting Lucas/Delphi injectors
> > > during
> > > > > my RS2 conversion. I always do when using non Bosch/OEM parts.
> > > This
> > > > > is why.
> > > > >
> > > > > Use RS2 or at least the 034 equivalents. Use the Delphi's on a
> > > small
> > > > > block Chevy. Or something. Like watering plants.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig Lebakken
> > > > > 94 S4
> > > > >
> > > > >
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