[s-cars] AUDI S8 QUATTRO FS- Maine

dave flagg dfautohaus at adelphia.net
Tue Sep 12 12:44:31 EDT 2006 

I've been seriously looking for a 2002 S6 - is there really an advantage with the S8? 
<< totsally different car; S 8 has the all aluminum chassis so it's not as heavy as one would think. i wonder if the cars without the sport seats are also built with a less agressive spring set.

 Seems the S6 would be lighter, << not lighter>>
 same engine, trans, etc. One might think but the S8 is tuned decidely differently; if I'm correct, Audi owned Cosworth at that point and I believe both the S 6 and S8's are Cosworth tuned (cylinder heads and intake maifold). There is no doubt that they are geared differently as well. RPM ranges,torque curves,etc. the S8 seems to be longer legged as well. the S9 will give you 24-25 mpg hiway. TMost S 6's are in the teens
.  
20hp less really does not mean that much<< Drive each car back to back and you see the difference in the way the drive.We just sold our 03 S 6 Avant to a customer; it took him a week to decide between the S 6 and the S8. Practical usage dictated the S 6 Avant; Everything else said S 8, no question.
DF
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  Subject: Re: [s-cars] AUDI S8 QUATTRO FS- Maine


  I drove an S8 yesterday - 2003 - 25K miles. Not happy with the seats - no support.  Torque is intoxicating, but I missed the boost kick. No way it handles as well as my urS6 - but very impressive for a big car. I've been seriously looking for a 2002 S6 - is there really an advantage with the S8?  Seems the S6 would be lighter, same engine, trans, etc.  20hp less really does not mean that much, especially since I would chip it anyway.  


  Our local dealer just took in an RS6, sold immediately for  - $60K - I guess I will have to wait a long time for one of these... 

  Tom R
  95 S6 MTM 1+
  Mpls
    Well OK, but now that makes me feel stupid for letting that beauty go for
    $19K yesterday   :)

    But what about the transmissions?  Last time I really looked at these cars
    (couple years ago, and it was an A8 actually) it seemed like people were
    having problems?



    ike

    On 9/12/06, dave flagg <dfautohaus at adelphia.net> wrote:
    >
    > <<going to be EXPENSIVE to run and maintain
    > Gotta disagree vigorously on this point. These cars are no more costly to
    > own than anything else. It's the best car Audi ever built up to that
    > point.
    > still
    > quite simple/staightforward compared to the latest generation cars.
    > services
    > are at 40 and 80 k for for plugs and filters 105k I think for the T belt;
    > brakes are no more expensive than the rest of the Audi's (which is cheaper
    > than my Chevy S 10) and when is the last time someone had an exhaust part
    > rust out??? My S 10 is on it's third exhaust repair at 95 K miles
    > plenty of glorified oil changes in between. Our experience has been that
    > these cars don't break big very often at all. Couple that with 24+mpg (S8)
    > on the hiway with the biggest grin on the planet and they are without a
    > doubt the car to own. they won't own you with decent care.
    > take that .02 to the bank.
    > DF
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Mike Claire" <mike.claire at gmail.com>
    > To: <pkrasusky at ups.com>
    > Cc: "Scar" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:57 AM
    > Subject: Re: [s-cars] AUDI S8 QUATTRO FS- Maine
    >
    >
    > > I've been looking at these too - I want one sooooo bad.  But it's a
    > > left-brain/right-brain thing.  No matter how cheap they are to buy
    > they're
    > > going to be EXPENSIVE to run and maintain.  So my left side keeps
    > winning
    > > (or is it the other side - I forget).  Check out this one that just
    > closed
    > > last night - winning bid $19000 for a 2001.  88K miles, but looks real
    > > nice
    > > and had the right color combo (for me).
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=160025848376&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Mike
    > >
    > > On 9/12/06, pkrasusky at ups.com <pkrasusky at ups.com> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Dave compared then Dave noted:
    > >>
    > >> <<<Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:17:32 -0400
    > >> From: hoog23 at aol.com
    > >> Subject: Re: [s-cars] 2001 AUDI S8 QUATTRO FS- Maine
    > >>
    > >> What with all this talk about deals on S8's I see there are also good
    > >> deals on c5 S6's.
    > >>
    > >> There is a private party 31k mile '02 S6 local to me (NY) for $27,xxx.
    > >>
    > >> Dave
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> -----Original Message-----
    > >> From: forgied at ae.ca
    > >> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
    > >> Sent: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 4:07 PM
    > >> Subject: [s-cars] 2001 AUDI S8 QUATTRO FS- Maine
    > >>
    > >> Steve:  But the 2002 S8 I was looking at was "offered" at CDN$39,900
    > >> (about US$35,000).  Makes either the Maine car or the Colorado cars
    > look
    > >> positively inexpensive.
    > >>
    > >> Dave F.>>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> As Dave (to now the third power) Flagg noted, //S8's have fallen ***out
    > >> of the sky*** in the past 6 months.  No way those online asking all
    > >> those dollars for them will get that - dreamers.  Definitely wayway
    > >> under book right now.  Dunno why, no one wants them.  Misunderstood
    > >> vehicle I guess.  Think that CO car looks positively inexpensive Dave,
    > >> have a peek at what they're doing @ auction.  Must be nauseating to be
    > a
    > >> seller!
    > >>
    > >> Sure is a LOT of car for the $$$ tho.  And even the pundits are being
    > >> swayed - my buddy Brian was driving one yesterday and called me
    > >> exclamating "I take back *all* I previously said about these not being
    > >> worth the premium over an A8...   short of the RS6 THIS is THE best
    > Audi
    > >> I've ever driven - all my preconceptions are OUT the window - this is
    > an
    > >> amazing machine and the tranny rocks - car out handles and outperforms
    > >> my UrS all day".
    > >>
    > >> Coming from the man who pilots a tuned GT2, etc., that's pretty good
    > >> feedback.  So much so he's likely making new effort to move his '95.5
    > >> RS2'd UrS6 to make way for one, I know of one lister looking at his
    > >> likely soon (MUwhahahaa to him).  Bruce and Edweirdo here are two that
    > >> have made the jump thus far.  Wunder who's next 8-).
    > >>
    > >> On the C5 //S6 Avant front, they appear to be holding ground a bit
    > >> better.  Tho the one Dave notes above seems to be a heck of a deal.
    > >> But, Avant aside, I still think the //S8 is entirely more car, and
    > >> cooler, IMO of course.
    > >>
    > >> -Paul things in motion in CT K.
    > >>
    > >>
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