[s-cars] NAC: He Said "Scirocco!"

[LL - NY]

Mark,

Yup, knew that. When they rebuilt it, they used the older (pre-JT) pinion
shaft and circlip. Guess the labor rates around upstate NY in 87 were
significantly less than Chicago. I'm sure things would've been different had
I been in the Greater NYC region.  And, the stupid flaw was confined to only
the close ratio 8V gearboxes. One of my friends (and former member of our
SCCA region) had his gearbox self machine on the way to Nationals in his
Jetta Wolfsburg. He rebuilt the tranny in the hotel parking lot (I'm sure
the management must've loved the mess of gear oil) and went on to trophy at
Nats. Yes, dumb design to save a few cents. Wasn't one of VAG's more
brilliant decisions. I just don't think other mfgs are immune from just as
stupid decisions, only we're more aware of VAG's mistakes as a part of this
forum.

LL - NY

On 11/30/08, mtgadbois at aol.com <mtgadbois at aol.com> wrote:
>
>  Larry,
>
> The design flaw was that VW replaced a cir-clip in the transmission with a
> pop-rivit.  Either of them was to hold in a set of
> gears on a shaft.  What happens is that the pop rivit wears down and the
> gears slide off the shaft and through the tranny case.
> In my case, I complained to the zone rep (44K miles) and VW paid for 1/2 of
> the cost.  My job was originally quoted at $3K.
> When VW entered the picture the prices fell to VW rates, namely $2200.  My
> cost was 1/2 or $1100. I guess the prices are higher in
> Chicago but this was 1986!  With this level of design expertice at VW I
> decided to no longer buy their products.  BTW, this type
> of problem was documented in European Car Magazine in the 1980's.
>
> Mark near Chicago
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com>
> To: mtgadbois at aol.com <mtgadbois at aol.com>
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Sent: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:36 am
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] NAC: He Said "Scirocco!"
>
>  I too had an A2 GTi, which ate it's tranny. Turns out that was a design
> flaw that VW sort of half covered (gave me $500 towards an $1100 rebuild) at
> 50K miles. Other than that, the car was (reasonably, yeah, there were broken
> plastic bits) durable right up until a storm felled tree landed on it 14 yrs
> and 110K heavily autocrossed miles later. If Paulie does post contact info,
> I'm actually half serious. $800 for that sort of raw fun (not too mention 87
> octane mid-high 20 MPG flailing it as hard as you can) works for me.
>
> LL - NY
>
> On 11/29/08, mtgadbois at aol.com <mtgadbois at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> To you buyers,
>>
>> This thread does not seem to die so I'll add my 2 cents.
>>
>> I, too, had a 1981 Scirocco S, white with red interior.
>> It was a bucket of rust. I bought it new and sold it in
>> 1986 to get a new GTI.  The GTI ate its tranny and that
>> was the last time I ever looked at owning a VW. Both cars
>> were a lot of fun but hardly durable.
>>
>> Mark near Chicago
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:12:32 -0800
>> From: "Jack Walker" <jack at walkerperformancegroup.com>
>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] NAC: He Said "Scirocco!"
>> To: "'Ben Swann'" <benswann at verizon.net>, <pkrasusky at ups.com>,
>>     <robert.rossato at hs.utc.com>, <larrycleung at gmail.com>
>> Cc: krasusky4 at comcast.net, s-car-list at audifans.com
>>
>>
>> I had a 81 Red S, too.
>> Loved it until I totaled it on a long left hand sweeper and
>> sneezed...drifted into the gravel on the right hand side, over corrected
>> and
>> it spun backwards into a ditch on the opposite side
>>
>> There seems to still be some running in some of the SCCA classes?
>>
>> Jack Walker
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Ben Swann
>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:23 AM
>> To: pkrasusky at ups.com; robert.rossato at hs.utc.com; larrycleung at gmail.com
>> Cc: krasusky4 at comcast.net; s-car-list at audifans.com
>> Subject: [s-cars] NAC: He Said "Scirocco!"
>>
>>
>> Hey, where is this 'rocco?  I want in on the bidding war!
>>
>> To this day can't believe I sold my '81 sidwinder "S" in 1992  for $1k and
>> a
>> cell phone
>> I never used.  Anyone want a cell phone - you know the 5 lb Motorola
>> jobbie?
>>
>> Ben
>>
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