[s-cars] MA inspection suggestions?

Sat May 30 12:50:33 PDT 2009

Hell, just get it registered in Montana & there's no inspection to deal
with.

You do get some looks from the local donut guzzlers, though.

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Robert Myers <bob at chips-ur-s.com> wrote:

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> You guys should move to good ole West-by-God.  Inspection here
> requires 1.  current registration  2. current insurance
> receipt  3.  lights work.  4.  brakes still have some pad
> material.  5. tire wear bars not exposed  6. no major rust holes
> capable of eating someone you do a hit and run to.
>
> Frankly, you wouldn't want to drive a car which wouldn't pass the WV
> state inspection.
>
> No sniff.   No major disassembly.
>
> If the inspector (wrench at local corner service station) knows you
> and your car it's just a matter of doing the paper work and applying
> the sticker.
>
> Bob
>
>
> At 03:20 PM 5/30/2009, Douglas Landaeta wrote:
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> >Thankfully you got it resolved in one day! In NJ, it's almost a continuous
> >thing for me with 3 cars due every 2 years. Same stuff with window tint
> and
> >emissions, DOT headlamps, 'missing' (or tampered) hose on the wastegate,
> >copy of insurance card (must have original). Ugh! but at least they're
> >consistent. In my town, I need to schedule an appointment a few days in
> >advance and no running it through twice in the same day - they want
> receipts
> >that emissions work was done. Right now 1 of 3 cars is okay for the next
> 16
> >months.
> >
> >On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:09 PM, JC <jc at j2c3.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Actually FINALLY some better news & developments... and have the real
> Mass
> > > lowdown for any other listers stuck with a similar jerkbag situation...
> > >
> > > Spent the day fuming and calling around and driving around... got an
> answer
> > > from most shops that this jerk was being extremely conservative with
> > > interpretation of the rules - not just letter-of-the-law but
> > > beyond-letter-of-the-law.
> > >
> > > Basically yes the guy is allowed to fail me at his discretion based on
> the
> > > fact that "he feels it's louder than OEM would be".  That is NOT how he
> > > described  it and he rather angrily and aggressively told me repeatedly
> > > "Since October XX of 2008, non-original exhaust is an AUTOMATIC
> FAIL!!!! NO
> > > APPEAL, NO ARGUMENT"....
> > >
> > > The other shops told me he was just being a dickhead, and other names
> of
> > > that sort.
> > >
> > > The actual rule however is 'it can't be louder than OEM', which Mr
> Ayyhole
> > > interprets as 'it can't be anything BUT OEM'.  Aftermarket exhausts are
> > > LEGAL (this guy was WRONG) but only if - in the judgement of the
> inspector
> > > -
> > > they are about as quiet as the OEM would be... so lots of room for
> > > interpretation.  Apparently reasonable shops interpret that as 'should
> be
> > > reasonably in the range for a street car as long as it's not leaking or
> > > malfunctioning or missing cats etc'.
> > >
> > > Also what he lied to me about was the fact that I COULD have appealed
> to a
> > > state inspector overseer type dude etc. etc. which while it would be
> > > satisfying to hassle him back, I just don't have time for, but you have
> > > that
> > > recourse as well as recourse to just try other shops and see if they'll
> OK
> > > it - which is what I did.
> > >
> > > The first shop that would re-inspect me right away did do a full
> inspection
> > > but then failed me on WINDOW TINT (another PO addition) which Mr.
> Assbag
> > > has
> > > PASSED me for... It was starting to become comically ridiculous, but I
> ran
> > > home, fired up the heat gun, peeled the window tint off
> driver/passenger
> > > front door windows, and then ran back...  NOW I have a sticker, WITH
> the
> > > Stromung exhaust, and no front window aftermarket tint... (it was a bit
> > > ghetto anyway but when I park in the marina parking lot on hot summer
> days
> > > I'll probably miss it...)
> > >
> > > What a damn waste of a beautiful day though.  Had to cancel a round of
> golf
> > > and a music jam session... that bastard really screwed my day...
> > >
> > > Oh yeah, in re: visual driveline inspection - Mass does require a quick
> > > jack
> > > and inspect on front suspension although it's pretty cursory less
> stringent
> > > than other states that give a tough look at all suspension and brake
> > > components and cranking on the wheels to see if ball joints / tie rods
> are
> > > dangerous (NH for instance looks at brake lines pretty closely IIRC).
> > >
> > > Finally with the kind sticky-icky.... JC
> > >
> > > John J. Cunningham
> > >  <mailto:jc at j2c3.com> jc at j2c3.com
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  _____
> > >
> > > From: LL - NY [mailto:larrycleung at gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:00 AM
> > > To: JC
> > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] MA inspection suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > > This is bad, since MA and NY are both on the same Cali rules.  I really
> > > HOPE
> > > that this is some stupid mis-interpretation. Can you go to a different
> > > inspection facility (perhaps Lee or Brett know of a "friendlier"
> facility)?
> > > I didn't think that NY nor MA had "visual" inspections of
> > > driveline/emissions equipment like they do in Cali. I do know that the
> OBD2
> > > cars just get plugged in to the diag computer. Hell, I don't even know
> if
> > > they check the brakes, other than driving the car into the bay. If they
> > > don't hit the wall at the back of the bay, the brakes are good. I think
> > > they
> > > check the Saabaru's wipers though...
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > LL
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM, JC <jc at j2c3.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > QW'rs will have to excuse the multiple cross-posting but I'm in a solid
> jam
> > > now and all the input I can get is desperately needed... This goes out
> to
> > > Mass listers who I hope will have suggestions/solutions... here's the
> > > story:
> > >
> > > So I just trundled the wagon with the sweet stainless (and in perfect
> > > condition) Stromung exhaust in for state inspection and the aaaayholes
> at
> > > the local Mobil (huge mistake) flat failed me for "non factory exhaust
> is
> > > an
> > > automatic fail since October of last year".
> > >
> > > System is tight and has a cat and everything works perfectly -
> obviously it
> > > would have been completely possible for him to look at it and say
> "looks
> > > tight and fine to me" and I'm sure OEM-clone exhaust parts from
> aftermarket
> > > are legal but he had to be a complete dickhead and give me the "That's
> > > aftermarket right? Automatic fail. And it's a 'safety violation' so you
> are
> > > not allowed to even drive the car until you get it fixed blah blah
> blah..."
> > > And this is NOT an emissions issue (oddly enough I guess we don't have
> the
> > > rollers anymore so they took that whole hassle away...) it's just
> exhaust
> > > equipment/sound related...
> > >
> > > Has anybody else been hit with "non-OEM" exhaust fail in MA and have a
> > > solution? Any 'exhaust friendly' inspection stations out there?
> > >
> > > My bet is that this rule like the expensive and stupid failed
> > > roller-emissions test it will probably be rolled-back eventually but
> right
> > > now it's a friggin' disaster...
> > >
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