[urq] 20 V engine swap

[Brandon Rogers]

Sean-
More opinions- (I'm full of 'em)

For a 20V swap 3B is defintiely the way to go.  AAN causes so many
headaches.  Not sure what your intended purpose would be (track vs street
etc) but for the street a plain chipped 3B is _really_ hard to beat.  Highly
reliable and boost builds quickly - the car is faster than most other cars
out there - I mean look at the power to weight ratio 270 hp for 3000 lbs-
that's 11.1 lbs/hp - we're talking chipped and exhaust bi-turbo S4 territory
(assuming 3600 lbs and 320 hp).  Obviously there's plenty more in the motor
but at a compromise...lag - which I don't want here at 5000+ ft - heck
you're altitude also, too.

The other really cool option IMO is doing a 10V EFI conversion.  Javad's
034-EFI seems like it would be super cool.  Cost a lot less, too.  I think
it's a _real_ aternative to a 20V swap, b/c I feel the main purpose of the
20V swap is to ditch CIS and get something (EFI) that starts right up every
time and is _consistent_ - something I felt CIS never achieved....

Be glad to spend all sorts fo time hashing it out in Park City - 2 weeks
baby!

Brandon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <AudiQtroCp at aol.com>
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] 20 V engine swap


> Hey guys thanks for the replies, all of which made great sense and
> discouraged me from bidding on the 3B engine thats on ebay right now.  The
guy dont
> wanna ship it anyway.
>
> I had some other thoughts to throw out there.
>
> I really want to go with the 4.2L V8 that many of the 4000 guys are
working
> on right now.  I would have to send the car out to 2Bennett to get the
> fabrication of the mounts done but then I would do the rest of the swap.
the biggest
> headache with this setup I see is the brakes, you need to go with a Tilton
(
> or equivalent ) pedal set due to clearance issues under the hood - which
causes
> as many issues under the dash.
>
> The AAN engine is enticing but its not as easy of a swap into an UrQ.  The
> other drawback of the AAN is the same as one of the benefits - RS2 parts.
Man,
> I see what all that stuff sells for and I know its just going to be out of
my
> league to even think about loading up the car with that kinda $$$.
>
> The 3B is the most sensible swap, right?  Its good to an optimistic 300HP,
> with a reliable and easy 270, basically falls right into the car...
>
> One of my UrQ's has an '89 MC2 engine in it.  I like that engine, I sure
> could get one cheap enough.
>
> Where this all takes a twist is when you consider the pocket change you
can
> get a good 89-90 MC2 engine for. Maybe even grab a 2.5L Eurovan block...
With
> the money thats left over from either of the 20V options I can rebuild the
> engine and get into true EFI via 034.
>
> Anyway, Im pretty anxious to start something with that particular car, I
> wouldnt mind an engine sitting on a stand in my garage being rebuilt and
tweaked
> while the rest of the car is getting finished up.
>
> Happy Motoring
> sean
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