[urq] 2 urqs on ebay

[Pasqualoni, James E]

Ken,

I purchased my UrQ a year ago.  It is also a '83.  I managed to get around a
few things:

-Ball joints-so long as the joint itself is still serviceable, you can tap a
grease fitting into the joint evacuate old and grease and inject new, then
use the boot from a Porsche 944-they are the same.

-Dash-bought a junk 84 4000S quattro for $50.  I took the dash and all the
electrical parts I could carry away.

-Control Arms and bushes-control arms on early build 83 cars are no longer
available and were, at least here, unique to the UrQ.  You can only find
them used from certain auto recyclers, and the bushes are practically
unobtainium.  You will know you have the early-build suspension if the sway
bars are clamped down to the bottom/middle of the control arm.  The latter
suspension has links that are bushed to an opening in the neck of the
control arm.

Good luck, and I hope this helps,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
Of Thatcher Hubbard
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:30 PM
To: mayerk at umich.edu; Urq List
Subject: Re: [urq] 2 urqs on ebay

These cars will always be a labor of love Ken. If we were rational we'd stay
away from them entirely. But if you've already been bitten by the bug, I can
give you some advice based on the accquistion and maintenance of my own car.

Mine had bad body rust on (actually, more like "through") the front fenders
at the A-pillar. I was lucky enough to find a set of OEM ones in the states
for cheap (they were still $1000 by the time I'd shipped them). I don't have
any other rust issues (it was stored for a long time, but indoors) save a
couple of rock chips and the trunk hatch (which can still be found).

The question that you may want to start with is this: Do you want a
concours-winning all-original garage queen or are you more interested in
driving in that maintaining all-original parts?

There are some NLA parts with these cars that can be a pain, but as far as I
know, it is limited to:

Ball joints
Tie-rod ends (though I thought I saw Blau selling reconditioned ones) Dash
board F/TCU and ICU

I don't think but the last one is a huge issue. I managed to find ball
joints here in the US, and I think a worst case is either a) buy from Europe
or b) engineer your own. The dash board can be replaced with one from a
later 4kq or CGT, which is actually a nice upgrade from the original. I'm
converting my car to EFI, which I have about $1700 into, and I'll probably
be right at $2000.00 when it's all said and done.

Between the two cars you've mentioned, definitely go with the one with less
rust. I would not worry about the electrical systems too much, they can be
problematic, but there is a TON of experience with those issues on this
list.

I would pursue the question of whether they start or not. They are both
low-mileage, so the engines should be in good shape. I guess it all depends
on what the seller wants to get for them.


On 10/26/05, mayerk at umich.edu <mayerk412 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Since this is my first post, I wanted to take a second to introduce 
> myself. My name is Ken, I have been reading this list for about a year 
> now and tracking AudiFans, eBay, and VWvortex classifieds looking for 
> an UrQ in my price range. I am in southeastern Michigan, about 45 
> minutes from the dealer selling the two on eBay. I have been looking 
> for something to do this winter and I am planning to take a look at 
> them this week. The Gobi one seems to only have undercarriage rust, 
> where as the Mars one seems to have some body rot.
> I am reluctant to go for an '83 becuase it seems like the eletrical 
> systems got better by '84 and '85, but I'm foolish and have a lot of
energy.
> Is anyone interested in going with me to take a look or any pointers 
> on what to look for, or anything I should report back? I am looking 
> for a project, not a basket case.
> Restoring a #5 condition car like this is a labor of love, but I am 
> worried about having to spend $5000 on NLA parts when having something 
> in reasonable condition would be $5000 to begin with. Sorry about 
> being long winded, I am enthusiastic to finally get one of these, but 
> I have waited this long so if one of these isnt the one, I will keep
looking.
> --Ken
>
>
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Audi-Quattro-1983-Audi-Quattro-Coupe_W0
> QQcmdZView
> > ItemQQcategoryZ6055QQitemZ4585264816QQrdZ1#mainImage
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Audi-Quattro-1983-Audi-Quattro-Coupe_W0
> QQcmdZView
> > ItemQQcategoryZ6055QQitemZ4585264836QQrdZ1#mainImage
> >
> > low miles, plenty or rust on the undercarriage
> >
> > no affiliation blah blah blah
> >
> > Brandon
> > '84 urq
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