[urq] RE : Rear tie rods for my 1983 : is there an alternative toOEM ?

[Brandon Rogers]

you win an award L-A - not sure which one but ther eis one out here fo ryou.

Most Persisitent or something.

Say maybe you could help me come up with a cross referenced part for door 
pockets or front seatbelts...

Brandon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis-Alain Richard" <laraa at sympatico.ca>
To: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: [urq] RE : Rear tie rods for my 1983 : is there an alternative 
toOEM ?


> Bingo !
>
> After spending a couple nights browsing the online catalogues, I have
> found a part that is identical to the rear urq tie rod ends, early style
> (857 501 499A, or Lemfoerder 13687 which is NLA...).
>
> So, drum roll please...
>
> The tie rod end that fits an urQ is a Suzuki truck part ! ES3045 (or
> ES3045R, or ES3045RL) is a 16x1.5mm right-hand threaded part with a cone
> shank that looks and fits correctly in the urq strut.
>
> The funny part is that I browsed the online Lemfoerder and Moog/TRW
> catalogues for all the European brands, thinking that one MB or BMW or
> Porsche tie rod would fit (many looked the same in photo), but none that
> I saw in person at my FLAPS was correct. Each was either 14x1.5 (VW
> urBeetle) or the cone shank was too short (BMW 6-series or MB W123/124),
> or ...
>
> Then, my FLAPS person began to open its Japanese inventory boxes, and
> this Suzuki Sidekick/Tracker/Samurai 90mm outer tie rod was looking very
> similar to my eye...
>
> It is now installed on my car, and I have a few reminders in Outlook to
> check if everything is still tight in a few days. One lost urQ wheel per
> city per century is enough :-)...
>
> Oh, by the way, it is a 12.00$CDN part... so I will always have some in
> stock, like the upper strut mounts or the radiator fan switches...
>
> Another solution that I was following was the urBeetle 14x1.5mm tie rod
> (311 415 812C, 11.00$CDN). To make it fits the bent part of the
> assembly, one would have to create an hybrid adjusting sleeve: you take
> a 22 mm steel billet, 88 mm long, and you have your preferred shop
> thread each end with a 16x1.5 left-hand thread portion, and the other is
> 14x1.5 right hand thread. Then, you ask them to make a short slot in
> each end, and reinstall the 2 pinch collars. And voila, a nice and cheap
> rear tie-rod that uses garden variety urBeetle parts.
>
> So, if you want to do the same, wait a week or two and then ask me if
> everything is OK. I will remove the wheel and look closely for anything
> strange.
>
> Louis-Alain
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> I need a rear tie rod for my early 1983 : 857 501 499A. If memory
>> serve, they are expensive, right ?
>>
>> Since it is only the external part that is worn, can I replace it with
>> a similar part from a more common car ?
>>
>> Louis-Alain
>
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