[urq] UrQ frustration

Mike Del Tergo mdeltergo at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 23 17:57:57 PDT 2009


L-A,

the one on the bell housing is the speed sensor, the one one the lower drivers side block is the reference mark sensor that I think is bad. (though both have the same PN) Both look pretty easy to access though.  Destroying the sensor would still leave you with the 2 allen screws to remove however, no?!
 
> From: laraa at sympatico.ca
> To: mdeltergo at hotmail.com; urq at audifans.com; urq at pacbell.net
> Subject: RE: [urq] UrQ frustration
> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:46:20 -0400
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I hope it is not the sensor, because it is a PITA to remove from the
> transmission bellhousing if the engine is still attached. Maybe other
> listers have a way to remove it easily ? I wasn't able to remove one without
> destroying it with a hammer...
> 
> Louis-Alain
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
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> de Mike Del Tergo
> Envoyé : 23 août 2009 20:15
> À : urq at audifans.com; urq at pacbell.net
> Objet : Re: [urq] UrQ frustration
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: "urq" <urq at pacbell.net>
> > Subject: Re: [urq] UrQ frustrations
> > You should be able to use any speed or reference sender from an urQ, 5kT,
> > 200 or V8Q ...
> 
> 
> 
> Steve,
> 
> got an 035 PN for UrQ vs an 034 PN for the 5KTQ, can any one confirm or deny
> compatibility?
> 
> > Before you get too far you may want to confirm that there's still a
> > reference pin on the flywheel. The usual failure mode for the variable
> > reluctance sensors is that they stop working when hot but return to
> function
> > at cooler temps.
> 
> 
> 
> Unless the car will continue to run if the pin falls out (and on this one it
> may), I'd say unlikey as it ran, turned off with key and would not start 20
> seconds later, nor would it start hours later when cool.
> 
> > In fact, you did not detail the troubleshooting that you did to lead to
> the
> > determination that the reference sensor was kaput. 
> 
> 
> 
> As I mentioned I ran through the IST no start check list. As the pages were
> stuck together I did miss page #1, the set #1 to TDC and check cam gear and
> dizzy. Unlikely it was rotor, coil wire or plug connectors after sitting
> for 20 seconds. Checked F/TCU per IST OK, checked speed ref sensor, OK,
> checked reference mark sensor signal NOT OK, checked Hall power OK, checked
> coil, OK, checked ICU, OK, and mentioned fuel pump relay not in the system
> and no freq valve on this car.
> 
> 
> 
> Are you sure the problem > isn't that the timing belt slipped and the
> distributor timing is no longer
> > correctly aligned with the crankshaft?
> 
> 
> 
> Could be more likely than above, but car is not home so will need to bring
> some tools to check.
> 
> 
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