[V6-12v] Timing belt tools

[Edward Sluis]

Just my 2 cents:  I while  back I had the timing belt / water pump on my
92 100CS replaced a the dealership.  When I got it back I could see
paint marks on the pulleys so I asked the service manager what those
were for, mostly out of curiosity.  He told me that was how they made
sure that nothing moved while the belt was off.  Having seen many posts
about the timing belt topic on these cars I asked about the special
tools to lock everything in place.  He said something like "oh yes, we
use those too, the paint is a back up".  A couple weeks later I was out
with some friends and one of the people that came along that I didn't
know turned out to be a mechanic at the same dealership where my car had
been worked on.  I asked him about the special tools and the paint and
he told me that they always just used the paint and that he was sure
they had the special tools there but he had never used them nor had he
been told to.  This was an Audi dealer by the way.  Just thought that
might be interesting to add to the topic.  I did almost all of the work
on my car myself after that.

Ed.

-----Original Message-----
From: v6-12v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v6-12v-bounces at audifans.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Christiansen
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 2:43 PM
To: Rokas Reipa; James4ihl at aol.com
Cc: v6-12v at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [V6-12v] Timing belt tools

Rokas,

I can see that is theoretically possible. Both from posts on the list
and 
from the fact that whoever changed the timing belt in my car last
painted 
timing marks here and there. I know it is "possible" but I don't think
it's 
the "optimal" way of doing it.

Once I have the time I think I'll leave the front of my car disassembled

for a couple of days. That should give me enough time to fabricate a cam

holding tool. I think I can do without the crank holding tool. But I
would 
really like to get the cams aligned right - especially since it's fairly

obvious that someone didn't bother to use the right tools last time...

Tom

At 02:17 PM 2/23/2004 -0500, Rokas Reipa wrote:
>FWIW, the procedure can be performed just fine without the tools. BTDT.
>
>Rokas
>95.5 S6
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Christiansen" <tomchr at ee.washington.edu>
>To: <James4ihl at aol.com>
>Cc: <v6-12v at audifans.com>
>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:13 PM
>Subject: [V6-12v] Timing belt tools
>
>
>Folks,
>
>An alternative to renting tools would be if someone has access to the
>tools and could take enough measurements to allow reproduction. I have
>access to a rather cool machine shop and would rather easily be able to
>build the tools. All I need is an accurate drawing.
>
>Maybe if I could supply a handful of tools to the group at say $50/set
>we wouldn't have the missing tool problem anymore.
>
>I know that the timing belt can be changed without the special tools,
>but I would consider that a bit risky. I'd much rather do it right...
>
>Tom
>
>On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 04:11, James4ihl at aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 22/2/04 3:10:07 am, tomchr at ee.washington.edu
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > Now I just need to find someone who's willing to rent the tools
for
> > > timing belt replacement to me. But I guess I have about a year to
> > > find
> > > that someone... If any of you know anyone on-line or in the
Seattle
> > > area
> > > who has the tools for rent, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me
know.
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> >
> > Actually, this occurred to me recently also. I'm in the UK, so there
> > are probably not so many people on the list from my neck of the
woods,
> > but I'd been thinking about some of the Audi 'Special Tools' that
are
> > neccessary for working on this engine in particular. Most notably
the
> > tools for setting the valve timing (3243 for holding the cams in
> > position, 3242 for holding the crank in position), as the procedure
> > can't be performed successfully without them, but they are quite
> > expensive to buy relative to the amount of times one person would
use
> > them. However, if anyone has them and would be prepared to rent
them,
> > or is interested in a group buy, (I know an Audi dealer who will
> > happily supply special tools in the UK) maybe it's something we
could
> > help each other out with and save ourselves a lot of dough on Audi
> > workshop prices?
> >
> > James
>
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