[V6-12v] Timing belt tools

[Clive Young]

Ed

Your Audi guys .. for lack of a better term are full of crap. If you use the
proper tools you don't care if they move while the belt is off.. there fore
you need no back up. What they did was turn a payed 6 hour rate job into a 1
hour actual  job ( the mechanic still gets payed the 6  for an hours work
for example ) ..... at least you noticed and are doing your own work , good
for you

Clive

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Sluis" <emsluis at hotmail.com>
To: "'Tom Christiansen'" <tomchr at ee.washington.edu>; "'Rokas Reipa'"
<rokas at umd.edu>; <James4ihl at aol.com>
Cc: <v6-12v at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: [V6-12v] Timing belt tools


> Just my 2 cents:  I while  back I had the timing belt / water pump on my
> 92 100CS replaced a the dealership.  When I got it back I could see
> paint marks on the pulleys so I asked the service manager what those
> were for, mostly out of curiosity.  He told me that was how they made
> sure that nothing moved while the belt was off.  Having seen many posts
> about the timing belt topic on these cars I asked about the special
> tools to lock everything in place.  He said something like "oh yes, we
> use those too, the paint is a back up".  A couple weeks later I was out
> with some friends and one of the people that came along that I didn't
> know turned out to be a mechanic at the same dealership where my car had
> been worked on.  I asked him about the special tools and the paint and
> he told me that they always just used the paint and that he was sure
> they had the special tools there but he had never used them nor had he
> been told to.  This was an Audi dealer by the way.  Just thought that
> might be interesting to add to the topic.  I did almost all of the work
> on my car myself after that.
>
> Ed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: v6-12v-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:v6-12v-bounces at audifans.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Christiansen
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 2:43 PM
> To: Rokas Reipa; James4ihl at aol.com
> Cc: v6-12v at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V6-12v] Timing belt tools
>
> Rokas,
>
> I can see that is theoretically possible. Both from posts on the list
> and
> from the fact that whoever changed the timing belt in my car last
> painted
> timing marks here and there. I know it is "possible" but I don't think
> it's
> the "optimal" way of doing it.
>
> Once I have the time I think I'll leave the front of my car disassembled
>
> for a couple of days. That should give me enough time to fabricate a cam
>
> holding tool. I think I can do without the crank holding tool. But I
> would
> really like to get the cams aligned right - especially since it's fairly
>
> obvious that someone didn't bother to use the right tools last time...
>
> Tom
>
> At 02:17 PM 2/23/2004 -0500, Rokas Reipa wrote:
> >FWIW, the procedure can be performed just fine without the tools. BTDT.
> >
> >Rokas
> >95.5 S6
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Christiansen" <tomchr at ee.washington.edu>
> >To: <James4ihl at aol.com>
> >Cc: <v6-12v at audifans.com>
> >Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:13 PM
> >Subject: [V6-12v] Timing belt tools
> >
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >An alternative to renting tools would be if someone has access to the
> >tools and could take enough measurements to allow reproduction. I have
> >access to a rather cool machine shop and would rather easily be able to
> >build the tools. All I need is an accurate drawing.
> >
> >Maybe if I could supply a handful of tools to the group at say $50/set
> >we wouldn't have the missing tool problem anymore.
> >
> >I know that the timing belt can be changed without the special tools,
> >but I would consider that a bit risky. I'd much rather do it right...
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 04:11, James4ihl at aol.com wrote:
> > > In a message dated 22/2/04 3:10:07 am, tomchr at ee.washington.edu
> > > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Now I just need to find someone who's willing to rent the tools
> for
> > > > timing belt replacement to me. But I guess I have about a year to
> > > > find
> > > > that someone... If any of you know anyone on-line or in the
> Seattle
> > > > area
> > > > who has the tools for rent, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me
> know.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually, this occurred to me recently also. I'm in the UK, so there
> > > are probably not so many people on the list from my neck of the
> woods,
> > > but I'd been thinking about some of the Audi 'Special Tools' that
> are
> > > neccessary for working on this engine in particular. Most notably
> the
> > > tools for setting the valve timing (3243 for holding the cams in
> > > position, 3242 for holding the crank in position), as the procedure
> > > can't be performed successfully without them, but they are quite
> > > expensive to buy relative to the amount of times one person would
> use
> > > them. However, if anyone has them and would be prepared to rent
> them,
> > > or is interested in a group buy, (I know an Audi dealer who will
> > > happily supply special tools in the UK) maybe it's something we
> could
> > > help each other out with and save ourselves a lot of dough on Audi
> > > workshop prices?
> > >
> > > James
> >
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