[V8] Engine is out!

d saad dsaad at icehouse.net
Mon Apr 16 16:08:31 EDT 2007



Quick update - the tool is in fact a 12mm triple square. I bought one for
$6
The starter is down at the rebuild shop. They are going to see if
they can get the parts for it. I should know in a few days. Brushes and
solenoid should be easy. The rest of it is probably good anyway, although
I would like new bushings and a drive gear.
The guy at the shop was
pretty funny - turns out to be an Audi nut. He took a while before he
could stop correcting me about my "A8". Once it sunk in that it
IS a V8 and it HAS a V8, he told me how much he likes the type 44s, and
had a story about some - ahemm - "older gentleman" with a 700hp
200TQ. The guy is a customer of the Audi shop who helps me out.
Apparently, this is his daily driver. I bet he gets to work quick.

And - on the headers, if the bottom rear two studs (both sides)
were instead bolts, there would be no problem. Is there any reason not to
use bolts there?


I will have the head off tonight for a
real damage report. Fingers crossed. I might even get some St. Paulie Girl
to appease the Audi gods.


Dave

> I'm a bit
foggy on it right now, but I'm fairly certain I disconnected
> the
exhaust at the headers and was able to lift the motor out from the
> bell housing and up out -- though the clearance was minimal at
best.
> And that was without removing the rad support or
bumper.
> 
> Were your motor mounts collapsed?  Was the
front one broken?
> 
> I have not had to track down a
starter/solenoid set up for my manual
> trans car, though if you
know a reputable generator shop, I'd opt that
> route.
>

> And FYI, changing over from a fully functioning R12 system to
134 had no
> ill effects.
> 
> Wish I could
remember the head bolt tool -- I'm pretty sure it's the
> same one
I use on the Mk1 VW, i.e. 12-pt. whatever mm.   I'll say this
> --
when it comes time to torque the head bolts, you're gonna crap your
> pants at what it takes.
> 
> Wait -- as I think
about it... I remember tightening the exhaust header
> bolts after
the motor was back in the car, so now I'm not sure if I just
>
blew it by not installing them back on the motor before reinstallation,
> or what.  Either way, the downpipes had to be disconnected.
> 
> With little to no actual intel,
> DaveC.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original
Message-----
>>
From: v8-bounces at audifans.com
>> [mailto:v8-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of d saad
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:23 AM
>> To:
v8 at audifans.com
>> Subject: [V8] Engine is out!
>>
>>
>>
>> It took most of the
weekend, but my motor is on the garage
>> floor and ready to go
to the machine shop. It was pretty easy
>> all in all. Lots of
parts to take off, but it does come out
>> easy - at least
after you get that last bell housing bolt
>> out! There has to
be at least one of those buggers.
>>
>> I found that
Stella Artois was my best choice for removal
>> beer - in case
anyone is interested.
>>
>> I did come across a sort
of
>> chicken and egg problem concerning the exhaust headers
though
>> - you can not get the manifolds off without lifting
the motor
>> a little, and you can not lift the motor without
removing the
>> motor mount nuts - which you can not get to
without removing
>> the manifolds. It also does not look like
you could pull the
>> motor with the manifolds on because they
would not clear the
>> frame rails.
>>
>>
I may have also found the cause of my very slow R12 leak.
>>
When I took out one of the A/C compressor bolts, I got a
>>
short blast of R12. I guess there is either a crack in the
>>
case or it is somehow porous. I guess I will not try to
>>
rebuild this one when it finally blows up - just go with a
>>
new/rebuilt unit.
>>
>> Has anyone been
>> able to buy a starter drive gear and solenoid for a manual
>> tranny? I figure I better rebuild my starter now too - even
>> though it is working fine. It is not fun to remove.
>>
>> And finally - does anyone know
>> what
size tool I need for the head bolts? I am guessing a
>> 12mm
triple square - right?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
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