[V8] Track F/R
J123fs at aol.com
J123fs at aol.com
Mon Apr 16 21:03:30 EDT 2007
I'm not sure I agree Ingo. Simply widening track doesn't affect anything
5/2007 6:43:10 P.
but the load on the wheel bearings. Lowering a car would (and does) have an
effect on the front control arm, steering arm,and axle's. I have been
Sorry Al,
Ingo is correct. Widing your track DOES affect how the suspension works.
You are correct, it does not effect the static geometry, but as I have an
effect on the roll center of the car......and to say it does not effect the
handling on the car is factually incorrect.
It also makes the front springs effective rate lower by a fair bit, as you
are making the lever arm acting on the struts and springs longer. This too
also effects handling.
I had an interesting off list exchange about this recently, and in the
middle of the MASSIVE Northeaster we where getting here on Cape Ann ran the
numbers on SusProg3D, while watching it gust to over 70 mph on the anemometer.
On our cars changing the track 25 mm lowers the roll center 4%. Dropping the
car an inch or so does about the same thing- but you then tempt the pothole
gods. This can and does effect the suspension. I could not accurately figure
out the spring rate change as it was way too S#$%^tty to venture outside to
measure the control arm- (VW rabbit/Porsche 944/944tT control arm - same length
and articulation angles already in my database) but on a car already in the
database changing the track 25 mm changes the effective spring rate by 7+%.
Not chickenfeed numbers wise. You COULD argue that it's not apples to apples,
but the Audi C-Arm IS longer, so I bet the numbers are even higher.
I would be worried about the CV's- I have seen every brand of car racing
with lowered springs decrease the life of NEW CV's by 75%+. The issue isn't the
static position, but as the suspension goes through it's range of motion and
it runs out of length. Most guys who change their geometry, change the length
of the axles also. You HAVE to.
I would like too see the tie rod end inverted- this makes a LOT of sense
when it comes to bumpsteer on an lowered car with such a highly mounted steering
rack, but will it work?
I just replaced a split braided brake line (yes it happens, thankfully I was
going slow) and spent a good deal of time planning my subframe upgrade along
with tie rod ends, ect while replacing the hose, and I'm not too sure you
could reverse the taper on the strut arm without welding and re-machining the
thing to accept the tie rod end upside down. Do you know something I do not?
Jack
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