[V8] New problem - v8 tb

Jason Wilkerson wilke_jb at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 27 07:50:11 PDT 2009


Dave,
  It looks like your belt rides the same way mine does.  I know the 'lips' on the rollers keep the belt from riding back too far.  But my point of misalignment was about the actual roller or waterpump being tilted, for lack of a better term.  What I mean by this is if the roller is cocked it will cause the belt to want to ride one way or another.  I wouldn't even be worried, but it looks like the belt has done some VERY slight rubbing in the area directly above the damper where the belt crosses over the raised flange on the water pump.  I was actually thinking about grinding that area back slightly, as it is not part that covers the water impeller, it is just a dust cover to complete the back side of the TB cover.  I wish I could take your picture and point to the area but I'm not that good.  Thanks again for the advice and picture.

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, D Morralee <superdaveski at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: D Morralee <superdaveski at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [V8] New problem - v8 tb
> To: wilke_jb at yahoo.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 10:29 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> okay I had a look at the picture of my engine and have an
> updated of thoughts . 
> 
>  
> 
> The water pump ( pulley ) isn't the problem because it
> doesn't do any fore or aft alignment to the actual belt
> . The two Idler pulleys ( passenger side of engine ) are
> what provides the fore aft alignment of the belt at the Pass
> side Cam belt  . If you look at the picture you can see
> that my belt is also more to the aft of the Cam pullies . In
> the picture you can't see the crankshaft sprocket ...but
> I believe this also provides some sort of alignment .
> 
>  
> 
> questions
> 
> >have you rotated the engine with the T Belt on  ?
> 
> > is the belt hanging over the aft side of the Cam
> pullies ? 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:56:00 -0700
> > From: wilke_jb at yahoo.com
> > Subject: RE: [V8] New problem - v8 tb
> > To: superdaveski at hotmail.com; v8 at audifans.com
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you mean by 'line up'? I
> don't have the old water pump as it got thrown away. If
> I were to measure it I'm not sure how I would do it? My
> thoughts are that it wouldn't take much mis-alignment to
> make the belt not run true. Let me know what to measure and
> I will. Thanks for the fast reply - you guys are great.
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, D Morralee
> <superdaveski at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: D Morralee
> <superdaveski at hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [V8] New problem - v8 tb
> > > To: wilke_jb at yahoo.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 8:47 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jason 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > have you manually rotated the engine to see
> if it will
> > > align up ? Have you taken mesurements of the
> new and
> > > old water pump ? 
> > > 
> > > cheers superdave 
> > >  
> > > > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:41:16 -0700
> > > > From: wilke_jb at yahoo.com
> > > > To: v8 at audifans.com
> > > > Subject: [V8] New problem - v8 tb
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, new problem, sorry. Still working on the
> v6, just
> > > waiting on the service manual to arrive. Anyway,
> On the v8q
> > > - did a timing belt service, all rollers,
> waterpump, conti
> > > belt. Would have a 'slap' for lack of a
> better term,
> > > at various times. Took it all back apart,
> replaced damper,
> > > replaced belt with OE audi belt. Slap seems to
> have gone
> > > away, but before I buttoned it up, I noticed that
> the belt
> > > rides toward the back of the cam pulleys? I know
> this
> > > because you can see the shiny part in the front
> where the
> > > old belt ran for 60k. I assume it is a
> mis-alignment of an
> > > idler pulley and I'm thinking it may be
> causing the
> > > noise because it looks like it may be hitting the
> water pump
> > > housing in one place. I tried checking any pulley
> or
> > > mounting surface for wear, but can't find any
> problems.
> > > I also bought a rebuilt audi water pump, could
> they have
> > > bored the shaft wrong during re-build? Any BTDT?
> Thanks
> > > again.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
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