[Vwdiesel] Rabbit Diesel --is the Diesel a French or a German invention ???

Andrew Miller milleraw at comcast.net
Sun Apr 27 22:09:45 EDT 2003


Or rather...against Ford.


On Sunday, Apr 27, 2003, at 20:48 US/Eastern, Andrew Miller wrote:

> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>  From a few paragraphs down on the second link:
>
> "Karl Benz built his fist three-wheel automobile employing Otto’s
> engine. "
>
> And George Seldon patented a gas engine..[not the gas engine].  He
> apparently worked with Ford.
>
> http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aacarsseldona.htm
>
>
> On Saturday, Apr 26, 2003, at 11:21 US/Eastern, TexasTDI wrote:
>
>> LOL....do a Google search on the exact phrase "Inventor of the
>> Gasoline
>> Engine".  You'll get no less than THREE different names from three
>> different
>> websites.
>>
>> Karl Friedrich Benz
>> http://www.vor.ru/century/1949.html
>>
>> Nikolaus August Otto
>> http://ia.essortment.com/nikolausaugust_rcoe.htm
>>
>> George Seldon
>> http://www.nexpress.com/dyn/careers/ro030206.jsp
>>
>>
>> Chris Thornton
>> 1991 Volkswagen Jetta 2 Door 1.6 Diesel - 236k miles
>> 2000 Volkswagen Golf 1.9TDI (turbo diesel) - 81k miles
>> Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
>> http://www.amsoil.com
>> http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew Miller" <milleraw at comcast.net>
>> To: "TexasTDI" <TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit Diesel --is the Diesel a French or a
>> German
>> invention ???
>>
>>
>>> I think you are mistaken about the gas engine inventor.  It is
>>> Otto...the first name escapes me right now.  Otto ended up working
>>> closely with Benz to produce vehicles.  I will have to dig up the
>>> History of Science class paper I had to write in college on this
>>> topic.
>>>
>>> Hence the fact that gas engines run on the Otto cycle.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, Apr 25, 2003, at 02:07 US/Eastern, TexasTDI wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rudolf Diesel invented the Diesel engine.  An engine that was
>>>> powered
>>>> by
>>>> burning peanut oil instead of gasoline or being powered by steam.
>>>> The
>>>> differences aren't just the types of fuel these engines use.  The
>>>> very
>>>> design and engineering of these engines are different.
>>>>
>>>> Diesel engines use the high heat, caused by compression, to ignite
>>>> the
>>>> fuel.
>>>> Gasoline engines use an electric spark to ignite the fuel.  And
>>>> steam
>>>> engines simply use the steam pressure created by boiling water to
>>>> move
>>>> the
>>>> internal parts.
>>>>
>>>> Rudolf Diesel was born in Paris in 1858.  But his parents were
>>>> Bavarian
>>>> immigrants.  Bavaria is a state in Germany, well known for the city
>>>> of
>>>> Munich.  Diesel was a German no matter what country he might have
>>>> been
>>>> born
>>>> in.  So the Diesel engine is a German invention.
>>>>
>>>> The gasoline engine is also a German invention.  It's inventor was
>>>> Karl
>>>> Friedrich Benz.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Thornton
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