[Vwdiesel] Rabbit 1984 1.6L Turbo ---- ( need help on lube ).

[TexasTDI]

The 84 VW has either GL-3 rated or GL-4 rated 80w-90 in it.  Redline MT-90
is a GL-4 75w-90 lube.  Redline MTL is a GL-3 and GL-4 70w-80 lube.

Amsoil also makes a GL-4 80w-90 lube.  It's product code is AGT.

http://www.amsoil.com/products/agr.html

Chris Thornton
1991 VW Jetta 2 Door 1.6 Diesel - 238k miles
2000 VW Golf 1.9TDI (turbo diesel) - 84k miles
Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
http://www.amsoil.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Wall" <natewall1 at yahoo.com>
To: "Lee Hillsgrove" <hillsgrove at adelphia.net>; <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit 1984 1.6L Turbo ---- ( need help on lube ).


> GL-5 lube has extreme prtessure additives and  is
> required for limited slip differientials, where gear
> loading is exreme. Its the type and high percentages
> of these additives that will attack bronze in
> transaxles over time. Stick w/ GL-4. Redline MTL 90 or
> another one of the Redline grades is best (I forget
> the other one, the VW spec for weight falls right in
> the middle of the two). "MTL", BTW stands for "Manual
> Transmission Lubricant".
>
> --Nate
>
>
> --- Lee Hillsgrove <hillsgrove at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > Did not have time to check that I used the right
> > (acceptable) lube.    In
> > crankcase  Wal-Mart  Tech 2000  SAE  15W40. In 5
> > speed tranny
> >  ESSO  Gear Oil  GX   80W -- 90    API   GL -- 5.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  I'm pretty sure you want to have GL-4 fluid in the
> > transaxle. If my memory
> > serves me, GL-5 will tend to attack the yellow
> > metals, such as the synchro
> > cones.
> >  Gear oil is not like motor oil as far as the
> > ratings are concerned; While
> > motor oil ratings supercede one another and are
> > forward compatible, gear
> > oils are not. So, while a GL-5 rating is newer, it
> > is not necessarily
> > better.
> >  Many people run Redline synthetic. Expensive, but
> > worth it for better
> > winter shifting particularly, from what I have
> > heard.
> >
> > Here's a blast from the past, courtesy of Loren:
> >
> > "In a message dated 99-03-21 17:11:54 EST, you
> > write:
> >
> > > Is there some sort of compatibility problem with
> > GL-4 and GL-5? I would
> > >  like to use a synthetic tranny lube in my '91
> > Golf, but all the
> > >  synthetics that I have found are GL-5 rated and
> > my car asks for GL-4. I
> > >  remember someone saying that using GL-5 in a
> > tranny that is rated for
> > >  GL-4 will cause problems. Could someone explain
> > or refute this?
> > >
> >    I've heard it two ways.  It has to do with a
> > phosphorous bronze addative.
> > I've heard that one has it and will attack the
> > synchros in a tranny
> > requiring the other.  I've heard that the addative
> > is the required lubricant
> > (or something) that keeps the tranny that requires
> > it, from wearing
> > excessively.   Anyway, put GL-4 where it is required
> > and GL-5 where
> > it's required.  I know Amsoil makes both.  I had to
> > look closely before
> > finding the GL-4 stuff.  It's cheaper too!  :)
> > Check closely to be sure,
> > whatever brand you buy.
> >
> > >  ALSO: Can any of you Canadians recommend a place
> > where one can find the
> > >  17 mm hex key or socket that is required for the
> > drain & fill plugs on
> > >  my tranny? I looked around at the common places
> > and couldn't find
> > >  anything. If you have bought one, could you give
> > me an idea of its price
> > >  range too?
> >
> >    Mac, Matco, Snap-on you can take a lug bolt and
> > weld a nut to it or
> > double nut it and use that too.  Depending on where
> > you find it, probably
> > $10 - $20.
> >      Loren"
> >
> >
> >  From my archives, and a message from the "old"
> > diesel list!
> >
> >   Lee
> >   Oo-v-oO
> >   PP-ASEL
> >   KB1GNI
> >
> >
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