[Vwdiesel] Rabbit 1984 1.6L Turbo ---- ( need help on lube ).

[Nate Wall]

Chris:

You are in Texas, right?  I'd use the Redline MT-90.
That's what I use and I'm in a climate that gets
colder, and not quite as hot (Northern Virginia). I
really eases shifting over the mineral gear lube that
VW calls for. Also, I think the fuel economy increases
just a tad.

I'd reserve the thinner Redline MTL for really cold
climates.

You can mail order this stuff. Redline has a web site
and lists their distributors. W/ shipping it comes to
about $11 per quart and 2 quarts will fill it nicely
(with none left over).

--Nate
--- TexasTDI <TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com> wrote:
> The 84 VW has either GL-3 rated or GL-4 rated 80w-90
> in it.  Redline MT-90
> is a GL-4 75w-90 lube.  Redline MTL is a GL-3 and
> GL-4 70w-80 lube.
>
> Amsoil also makes a GL-4 80w-90 lube.  It's product
> code is AGT.
>
> http://www.amsoil.com/products/agr.html
>
> Chris Thornton
> 1991 VW Jetta 2 Door 1.6 Diesel - 238k miles
> 2000 VW Golf 1.9TDI (turbo diesel) - 84k miles
> Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500
> http://www.amsoil.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nate Wall" <natewall1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Lee Hillsgrove" <hillsgrove at adelphia.net>;
> <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit 1984 1.6L Turbo ----
> ( need help on lube ).
>
>
> > GL-5 lube has extreme prtessure additives and  is
> > required for limited slip differientials, where
> gear
> > loading is exreme. Its the type and high
> percentages
> > of these additives that will attack bronze in
> > transaxles over time. Stick w/ GL-4. Redline MTL
> 90 or
> > another one of the Redline grades is best (I
> forget
> > the other one, the VW spec for weight falls right
> in
> > the middle of the two). "MTL", BTW stands for
> "Manual
> > Transmission Lubricant".
> >
> > --Nate
> >
> >
> > --- Lee Hillsgrove <hillsgrove at adelphia.net>
> wrote:
> > > Did not have time to check that I used the right
> > > (acceptable) lube.    In
> > > crankcase  Wal-Mart  Tech 2000  SAE  15W40. In 5
> > > speed tranny
> > >  ESSO  Gear Oil  GX   80W -- 90    API   GL --
> 5.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  I'm pretty sure you want to have GL-4 fluid in
> the
> > > transaxle. If my memory
> > > serves me, GL-5 will tend to attack the yellow
> > > metals, such as the synchro
> > > cones.
> > >  Gear oil is not like motor oil as far as the
> > > ratings are concerned; While
> > > motor oil ratings supercede one another and are
> > > forward compatible, gear
> > > oils are not. So, while a GL-5 rating is newer,
> it
> > > is not necessarily
> > > better.
> > >  Many people run Redline synthetic. Expensive,
> but
> > > worth it for better
> > > winter shifting particularly, from what I have
> > > heard.
> > >
> > > Here's a blast from the past, courtesy of Loren:
> > >
> > > "In a message dated 99-03-21 17:11:54 EST, you
> > > write:
> > >
> > > > Is there some sort of compatibility problem
> with
> > > GL-4 and GL-5? I would
> > > >  like to use a synthetic tranny lube in my '91
> > > Golf, but all the
> > > >  synthetics that I have found are GL-5 rated
> and
> > > my car asks for GL-4. I
> > > >  remember someone saying that using GL-5 in a
> > > tranny that is rated for
> > > >  GL-4 will cause problems. Could someone
> explain
> > > or refute this?
> > > >
> > >    I've heard it two ways.  It has to do with a
> > > phosphorous bronze addative.
> > > I've heard that one has it and will attack the
> > > synchros in a tranny
> > > requiring the other.  I've heard that the
> addative
> > > is the required lubricant
> > > (or something) that keeps the tranny that
> requires
> > > it, from wearing
> > > excessively.   Anyway, put GL-4 where it is
> required
> > > and GL-5 where
> > > it's required.  I know Amsoil makes both.  I had
> to
> > > look closely before
> > > finding the GL-4 stuff.  It's cheaper too!  :)
> > > Check closely to be sure,
> > > whatever brand you buy.
> > >
> > > >  ALSO: Can any of you Canadians recommend a
> place
> > > where one can find the
> > > >  17 mm hex key or socket that is required for
> the
> > > drain & fill plugs on
> > > >  my tranny? I looked around at the common
> places
> > > and couldn't find
> > > >  anything. If you have bought one, could you
> give
> > > me an idea of its price
> > > >  range too?
> > >
> > >    Mac, Matco, Snap-on you can take a lug bolt
> and
> > > weld a nut to it or
> > > double nut it and use that too.  Depending on
> where
> > > you find it, probably
> > > $10 - $20.
> > >      Loren"
> > >
> > >
> > >  From my archives, and a message from the "old"
> > > diesel list!
> > >
> > >   Lee
> > >   Oo-v-oO
> > >   PP-ASEL
> > >   KB1GNI
> > >
> > >
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