[Vwdiesel] turbo prime not the problem - still no go

[Will Taygan]

Okay James, you were right.  Thanks for the encouragement

Some more cranking and I got it going at 1 am.  It blew some black smoke
and then clouds of gray.

It sat until 9 this morning, -1 F, and started after about 3-4 seconds
of cranking (really really fast cranking (about 5 cranks per second for
a total of 15-20 cranks or so))  Black smoke then some gray, but it is
quite cold.  It's still longer than normal (usually it's 2-4 cranks).
So, I'll look for leaks and keep y'all updated.

I'm assuming glow plugs and compression are fine, since it started below
0 F without a block heater!


Will.
Chugiak, AK


 On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 02:14 -0600, James Hansen wrote:
> It should start Will.
> Loosen the nuts on the injector lines at the injector. If fuel comes out
> there, you are getting fuel, no real need to pull injectors etc.
> It's unadvisable to fiddle with high pressure oils of any type- after the
> fuel pump the fuel is at pressures that can inject into skin in an instant,
> and minimum, you lose a digit or portion thereof, maximum, you lose your
> life. Heavy leather gloves, not split grain, not the pretty mechanix ones
> either.
> The volume of fuel you are dealing with is < a few ml per revolution, so
> it's not a huge amount, it takes a while to get to the injector if the pipes
> are competely empty.
> 
> The incidence of the plunger end of the solenoid breaking off is nearly nil.
> Nearly. If yours is broken off run to the store and buy some lottery
> tickets.
> If no fuel comes out the loosened injector lines, then consider pulling the
> solenoid, and changing out with another or plug the hole with a suitable
> metric fitting.
> I would start to suspect the primary side of the pump is probably weak (the
> side that gets the fuel to the pump internals)  How many miles on it?
> 
> Some have had exasperation until they eventually try to pull start it, then
> it's all good again.
> 
> How many miles you put on the starter already :-)
> -James
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]On
> Behalf Of Will Taygan
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:34 AM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: [Vwdiesel] turbo prime not the problem - still no go
> 
> 
> Well, thanks for the priming tips.  I picked up a suction gun for $12 at
> schmuck's, used a hair dryer to soften the rubber on the little valve in
> the return hose at the fuel filter and jammed the return line into the
> hose on the suction gun.  It sucked the fuel right up into the return
> hose.  Seems like the pump was primed.
> 
> The stop solenoid clicks loudly, so I don't know if it's worth it taking
> it out or not.  Tomorrow I hope to pull the fuel lines and hook up an
> injector and see if I can see the spray from each port.
> 
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> Will Taygan
> Chugiak, AK
> 
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