[Vwdiesel] Guilty ECO Memories

Sat Dec 22 16:30:59 PST 2007

This ECO talk lately reminds me of my '91 ECOJetta. Bought it in the mid 90's from Dwight Harrison VW here in Snellville, Ga. 5,000.00 including tax. Used it for business travel until '04, when I bought an '01 Jetta GLS TDI. The ECO had 225,000 miles when I sold it to a retired Marine, who bought it sight unseen for my asking price, 3,500.00.....sniff...

It had nice 5 spoke alloys, Michelin MXV4's and an H4 quad, round headlight setup, and it was black with excellent gray cloth interior....Sniffsniff....SOB

I practiced Anal Maintenance, replacing the clutch at 156k just in case, replaced the door handles, one of the wierd cooling fans, always serviced it regularly ( tbelts,wpump,ect. )  and it never let me down...

I KNOW the newer TDI is better for my travels....That ECO would cruise at 80 all day, problem was it took alllll day to get to 80 ! I didn't know what I was missing 'till I test drove my Mk 4 , and it made my ECO seem like an oxcart. Still, I feel to this day like I abandoned my leetle friend...

The new owner ( John Roos, are you out there ?? ) paid cash, and after a nice visit, he drove away, never even test drove it....He drove it to Las Vegas the following week , to his new job with the EPA....So I'll probably never see it again, but at least I know it's being well cared for...

My family hated it, I should have kept it anyway. I'll never see another as sniffsniffsniffSOB nice as my leetle friend !! 

I feel dirty and small...

Name withheld due to SHAME
> From: vwdiesel-request at vwfans.com> Subject: Vwdiesel Digest, Vol 50, Issue 33> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:00:02 -0800> > Send Vwdiesel mailing list submissions to> vwdiesel at vwfans.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vwdiesel-request at vwfans.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vwdiesel-owner at vwfans.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vwdiesel digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: '81 Rabbit overheating (Terry Briggs)> 2. Re: 91 Jetta TD 43k always garaged (mikitka)> 3. Jetsonmobile Volantor (Val Christian)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:48:19 -0500> From: Terry Briggs <vbriggs at stny.rr.com>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] '81 Rabbit overheating> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com> Message-ID: <275af1b23adc75539a147f9ffb34d76c at stny.rr.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed> > 32psi pressure cap ! now that's a hot system lol , at 32psi, that means > 276.76 degrees F that's what the temp of the steam it would produce > should it blow off {saturated steam temp}> On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:19 AM, James Hansen wrote:> > > So THAT'S what those guys are doing chasing me around the racetrack- I > > have a 32 pound cap on my rad, and they are trying to certify my car > > as a pressure vessel...> > Good thing they can't catch me...> > -james> >> > Terry Briggs wrote:> >> The main reason for a 14psi cap is it stays below the 15psi limit of > >> a low pressure system, get over 15 psi and the whole system needs to > >> be certified as a pressure vessel . Our car cooling system is for a > >> lack of a better term, a low pressure boiler. if it weren't that way, > >> we could get some really good heat from our little diesels, then > >> again, if the system overheated, the resulting steam explosion would > >> most likely total the car I should think.> >> On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:36 AM, William J Toensing wrote:> >>> I thought I would wait to see if someone else would comment, but > >>> water boils at 212 F (100 C) at sea level. It boils at a lower > >>> temperature as altitude increases & air pressure decreases. As > >>> pressure increases, the boiling temperature increases. This is why > >>> modern cars use pressure radiator caps to increase normal operating > >>> temperature. This is why modern cars often use 14 pound pressure > >>> caps. Then the operating temperature can run much higher. This is > >>> why some temperature gages go up to 265 degrees F. There is a > >>> formula to figure how much the boiling point rises or lowers with a > >>> change in pressure, but I forget what it is.> >>> I would suggest adding a remote temperature sensing unit with a > >>> laser beam you can point at the part of the cooling system, engine, > >>> or other part you might want to measure the temperature of. I bought > >>> one at Costco a few years for around $50 as I recall. Auto parts > >>> houses should have them too. Radio Shack has a cheaper one without a > >>> laser pointer for less & they might have one with a laser pointer > >>> too.> >>> _______________________________________________> >>> Vwdiesel mailing list> >>> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com> >>> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Vwdiesel mailing list> >> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com> >> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel> >> >> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:40:51 -0500> From: "mikitka" <mikitka at embarqmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] 91 Jetta TD 43k always garaged> To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>> Message-ID: <001f01c844a8$a6b36bb0$6401a8c0 at speedracer>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Did you happen to notice if the IP had the "spaceship" on top? If no and it> had a turbo then it was an ECO. I wish my paint was still in good shape, I> bet that green looked good new.> One can always hope for a little luck in getting what they are looking for,> in our case a mint 80's early 90's diesel.> > Nick> > -----Original Message-----> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On> Behalf Of Doyt W. Echelberger> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:12 PM> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com> Subject: [Vwdiesel] 91 Jetta TD 43k always garaged> > Had a real surprise this afternoon. Dropped in at my mechanic's place to > say Merry Christmas and found him working on a showroom-sparkling turquoise > green 91 Jetta TD (eco diesel?) that had come in on a hook the day before > with catastrophic water pump failure. The odo showed 43k. The hood was up > and the engine looked new....really clean-black-paint-on-the-valve-cover > new. He replaced the pump, changed the stat and the coolant, swaped a > lower rad hose and some other rubber stuff, and belts. While I was there, > the owner came in to pay the bill and collect the car.> > She was a pleasant gray haired lady in her late 70's who looked and acted > 60. Add a tasseled red hat and she would pass for Santa's wife. She had > owned the car from new and didn't drive it much. Always garaged, seldom > serviced, and didn't know that the doors might leak in a rainstorm. She > mentioned that all rear door handles were getting hard to open, so I > pointed out the external corrosion on the latches and showed her how to > clean them up and take the handles off for lubrication. And I gave her my > card and asked her to call me if she ever decided to sell the car. Heck, > she could drive it another ten years that way and put on another 50k and > I'd still be interested in it.....if I'm still alive.> > SO, miracles can happen and there are dream cars out there being sheltered > and neglected by people who really don't need them.....and if you believe > in Santa Claus and Peter Pan you may even own one eventually.> > In my imagination, that was Mrs. Claus in street clothing, checking up on > my mechanic to see if he had been naughty or nice.......so, if you hear a > clatter on your roof in a few days, it may be a diesel...........> > And to all a good night.> > Doyt> > _______________________________________________> Vwdiesel mailing list> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:28:04 -0500 (EST)> From: Val Christian <val at mongo.mongobird.com>> Subject: [Vwdiesel] Jetsonmobile Volantor> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com> Message-ID: <200712221628.lBMGS5gc030807 at mongo.mongobird.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > This month's Diesel Progress, p 38 has an article on Moller's> Volantor, which uses multifuel wankel engines to drive a > multiengine fan array for a hovercraft. > > I might even trade my 91 Jetta for one of these.> > Not clear how I'm going to get a multiengine rotorcraft rating > easily. The article states that the vehicle is considered > a ground effect vehicle, and may not therefore fall under FAA> control. > > If only money and time were unlimited!> > > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Vwdiesel mailing list> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel> > > End of Vwdiesel Digest, Vol 50, Issue 33> ****************************************