[Vwdiesel] Polo TDI

Wed Nov 28 07:44:19 PST 2007

Here you go:

http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=the+great+global+warming+swindle

Click on the "S" column to see the version with the most seeders, currently over 10,000!

You'll need a bittorrent client like Azureus to perform the download.

On 28 Nov 2007 at 6:20, Gerry Wolfe <GerryWolfe at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Could you post the URL... I'm sure this would be of interest to the group.
> advTHANKSance, g.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Hansen" <jhsg at sasktel.net>
> To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Polo TDI
> 
> 
> > If you do torrents, I have a link to a movie called _The Great Global
> > Warming Swindle_.
> > PM me and I'll send the link to the torrent.  The movie is 950MB so it's
> > a bit big to email.
> > It is extremely informative, and unlike the gore spectaculum, is hosted
> > by actual scientists, using real scientific data and principles.
> >
> > There's some VERY interesting data on carbon and global warming not
> > being causal at all, and real historical data pointing to the actual
> > cause as being the SUN!  Yeah the big hot thing in the sky...
> >
> > It's definitely worth looking at.
> >
> > -james
> >
> >
> > Roger Brown wrote:
> >> Good points below.
> >>
> >> The other one I heard a while back is that with the big focus on reducing
> >> particulate emissions from diesels has an opposite impact on global warming. 
> >> The particulates help to block and reflect heat from the sun, countering some
> >> significant fraction of the potential warming from the CO2 in the same
> >> exhaust gas.  So by going to great measures to cut diesel particulates and
> >> even moving away from the more efficient diesel engines you are both reducing
> >> the heat lowering effects of the particulates and raising the heat increasing
> >> effects of burning more fuel (in a less efficient engine) and making more
> >> CO2.
> >>
> >> Funny thing too is I was looking at the Calif. Air Resources Board 
> >> particulate data over
> >> the state and guess where the particulates are higher and lower?  LA and the
> >> SF Bay Area are relatively low and it is the mountainous and desert areas
> >> (where relatively few people live) where particulates are much higher.
> >>
> >> But have some big rig or a bus drive by with black smoke behind it and 
> >> that is horrible to
> >> most folks.  Have a gas engine vehicle drive by and you see nothing so it
> >> must be OK, yet the gasoline exhaust will kill you while the diesel exhaust
> >> might give you a headache.
> >>
> >>
> >> James Hansen wrote:
> >>>> VWOA is missing the boat as we speak.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Joe
> >>> Well said Joe.
> >>>
> >>> Thing is, VWoA has been bit in the ass by your EPA everytime they do
> >>> something to get their diesels into the States.  the are so knee jerk
> >>> anti-diesel, the jeep CD's were legislated illegal before they made it
> >>> to market.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not the most popular guy when I say this, but I'm really really
> >>> tired of having the entire north american auto market being driven by
> >>> the insane in LA.  If everyone that lives in high population density
> >>> wants to drive everywhere all the time one person per car, then they
> >>> SHOULD have smog, and I really don't see why screwing over the rest of
> >>> the continent regarding nitrogen emissions is a wise goal.  It does seem to
> >>> be the only goal, and nobody even questions it any more, and it really
> >>> conflicts with any tangible and sensible use of resources. They just use the
> >>> words "pollution" synonymously with nitrogen emissions, and everyone seems
> >>> to accept it as given.
> >>>
> >>> For example, we now use at least 12% more fuel in the new tier 3
> >>> emissions compliant large diesel engines.  I've heard figures in real
> >>> world conditions as high as 30%.  Why?  So a farmer in Bugtussle can
> >>> drive a combine that has little in the way of smog producing nitrogen
> >>> emissions, and it will alleviate the smog over the vast prairie... oh
> >>> yeah, that's right, we don't get that here, we just have to meet the
> >>> same emissions standard as LA just in case we drive our combines and
> >>> tractors to LA.
> >>>
> >>> Point is, big picture, we are increasing the reliance on foreign crude
> >>> to keep smog out of the large urban centers by focusing on only one
> >>> component of exhaust.  It seems to not matter to the legislators how
> >>> efficient your new escalade is, as long as it produces no NOX, 10mpg is just
> >>> great.
> >>>
> >>> We'll never see a Lupo here, unless it is brought in as used in a few
> >>> years. It saddens me that people still rave about mileage figures that
> >>> are just beginning to approach what we as a group of VW diesel owners
> >>> have been getting for years and years, in old outdated cars with about
> >>> as low tech a motor as you can get.  Thing is they were engineered from a
> >>> completely different perspective, one that is pretty rare nowadays- to be
> >>> thrifty and functional primarily, not designed to win the bling award.
> >>>
> >>> The stuff that is coming down the pipe in Europe recently, and moreso
> >>> with the upcoming X prize for a high mileage performance car is really
> >>> getting my hopes up.   The Loremo prototype has turned in 140mpg real
> >>> world numbers so far.  It's looking good, just no chance of that
> >>> happening here anytime soon.   I expect high mileage cars to be
> >>> available in kit form someday, sooner than a manufacturer actually
> >>> brings in production cars.
> >>> -james
> >>
> >>
> >>
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