[Vwdiesel] temperature gauge/sender on 82 NA diesel

[mark shepherd]

The important thingis to get to know your gauge,and car performance, and 
look for changes beyond the normal range...
Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ken1" <ktzkarz at embarqmail.com>
To: "ken1" <ktzkarz at embarqmail.com>
Cc: <Vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] temperature gauge/sender on 82 NA diesel


>
> Here is the remaining info on my temperature senders: both have the same 
> part number, 049 919 501, same voltage - 12V, same max temperature- 120C 
> and some other code of 804/6/2. The only difference is the date, one is 
> 2/80, the other 5/89.
> The 5/89 sender is the one that did not function correctly on the 
> temperature gauge. I will just be vigilant and see what happens.
> Thanks everyone.
> ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ken1 <ktzkarz at embarqmail.com>
> To: r c brown <r.c.brown at ieee.org>
> Cc: Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:03:42 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] temperature gauge/sender on 82 NA diesel
>
> Will report all info on my 82 caddy tomorrow.
> Here is basically what I have so far;
> Well, now things are really confusing. I have a CR code NA engine, that 
> was rebuilt and installed in a van before I bought it.
> The outlet was already installed. I have a 1982 caddy with the stock 
> cluster modified by replacing the clock with a 1984 GTI tachometer. If 
> required, I suppose I could pull the cluster and get the actual part 
> number.
>
> All I know is the sender that was originally connected to the temperature 
> gauge only registered 3 1/2 marks maximum when I was driving in 105 degree 
> temperatures. The glow plugs appeared to function properly. Have not 
> burned out a plug to date.
> With the wires swapped, I now have a fluctuating and more realistic 
> reading on the temperature gauge and so far, the glow plug system is 
> functioning properly as well.
> I will take a magnifying glass and see if there are part numbers on the 
> senders as well as voltage and max temperature.
>
> I found a sender on another outlet flange that contained the following 
> info: date 4/81 temp 120 C voltage 12V and even had the part number 049 
> 919 501 stamped on it.
>
> Will review Roger's write up and present documentation on my engine 
> tomorrow.
> ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Brown <r.c.brown at ieee.org>
> To: Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Sent: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 23:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] temperature gauge/sender on 82 NA diesel
>
> LBaird119 at aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 6/2/2009 7:55:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> jrasite at eoni.com writes:
>>
>>> ETKA shows two temperature senders for the 1600 NA diesel in a
>>> Vanagon. One 049 919 501 for the temperature gauge and one 049 919 501
>>> for the glow plug circuit. I suspect that the same part numbers are
>>> applicable to all 1.6 diesels. (Yup. I just checked BusDepot.  Same
>>> sender 1974-1994 diesels. Both gauge and glow.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   I could be wrong but I seem to recall that the difference was
>> superceeded so that the gauge and GP relay sender part #'s were
>> compiled into just one sending unit for both applications.
>>      Loren
>
> Yes, I think they were initially different, then the same and then 
> different again with
> the GP sender changing from a variable resistor to an open/closed bi-metal 
> switch:
> http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/CheapTricks/GlowPlugs.shtml#TemperatureSensor
>
> -- 
>
>   Roger
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