[Vwdiesel] Oil Leak

[Stephen Kraus]

oops, forgot the link for the ARP Catalog

http://video.arp-bolts.com/catalog/ARPCatalog.pdf

<http://video.arp-bolts.com/catalog/ARPCatalog.pdf>Like I said, page 24,
look at the 11mm category

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Stephen Kraus <ub3ratl4sf00 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Okay, well I have the piece of paper from the 11mm ARP Kit, it states the
> following:
>
> 'With the ARP Provided lubricant you must torque to 90 ft/lbs in a 3 step
> process, run the engine and then re-torque each stud 3 x in 3 steps again'
>
> Also, referenced here:
>
>
> http://vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8490&sid=7820ca9dd9c9a22f052d3c76cdd14dea
>
>
> <http://vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8490&sid=7820ca9dd9c9a22f052d3c76cdd14dea>AND
> Here is ARPs Product Guide in PDF format, go to page 24 and look for 11mm
> and find the tensile strength bolt you ordered
>
> In NONE of those categories is 65 ft/lbs even an option, the lowest grade
> studs they have are listen as 72 ft/lbs
>
> I'd recommend re-torquing again at the correct settings
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Rudy Petersen <petersenrudy at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> By front of the Head, I meant front of the Engine facing forward when
>> you're
>> standing in front of the Car and looking at the Engine.  Actually it is
>> the
>> left side of the Engine in the Proximity of the #3 Cylinder.  It's a brand
>> new re manufactured 1981 11mm Head Bolt Engine  I've used the same machine
>> shop for years, they don't make mistakes like this.
>>
>> Everyone I talk to about the torque specs for the Studs says something
>> different so I figured no one really knows what they're talking about.  A
>> reputable VW Engine builder in my area suggested I torque them to OE
>> specs.
>> The clamping force would be greater than OE Bolts due to the fine threads
>> on
>> the nuts and the ARP Lube, made great sense to me.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the suggestions and your time..........Rudy
>>
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: brian hoeft [mailto:qweblog at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:54 AM
>> To: Rudy Petersen
>> Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Oil Leak
>>
>>
>> Rudy,
>> It would be helpful if you could be more precise in your explanation. I'm
>> also unaware of which engine you're referring to.
>>
>> By front of the head, you do mean the timing belt side correct? Not much
>> it
>> could be there, cam/intermediate/crank seal, valve cover&head gasket.
>>
>> I dont believe the head studs need to be re-torqued but someone may chime
>> in
>> with something more definitive, although your torque values dont match my
>> notes. Mind you, this is regarding a 1.6TD (code-MF). My ARP notes say
>> 80ft.lbs with ARP moly lube and 120ft.lbs. with 30wt oil.
>>
>> If everything you did was proper, I would question the work of the machine
>> shop. A so-called reputable shop, locally, cost me a lot of money and
>> could
>> have hurt my reputation, so I now have to travel 100 miles round trip to
>> have confidence in that aspect.
>>
>> Also, what compression "appears" to be is not always the case. As im sure
>> you know, cold compression isn't hot compression. If the guy brought you
>> the
>> car running and failed to tell you that it took several more cranks than
>> usual to start, that could be a tell tale sign. Otherwise, only a
>> compression or leakdown test would really answer the question.
>>
>> Also, be careful you're not deceived by oil that gets moved around be the
>> fan or pressure. I've seen plenty of oil leaks that look like theyre
>> coming
>> from somewhere other than the actual source.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Rudy Petersen <petersenrudy at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm working on a Customer Car that came in with an Oil leak in the front
>> of
>> the Head.  I had completely rebuilt the Engine, Head was machined flat as
>> well as the Block surface.  I used ARP Head Studs and torqued them to OE
>> spec (65 ft. lbs.) I didn't re torque the Studs and there is 3000 miles
>> since the install.
>>
>> Engine runs very well, no Oil in Water and doesn't appear to be any loss
>> of
>> compression.  I'm going to re torque the Studs and clean up the area and
>> see
>> what happens.  Anyone ever run across this?
>>
>> Rudy
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