[Vwdiesel] To warm

[James Hansen]

I still use Eberspacher, now called Espar heaters on the farm- for the heavy
trucks.  No guarantees that they always will be by a plug when it gets cold,
40 minutes on heat, and they are perfect.  Excellent things.  Been working
on them since I was a kid, on Mom's 69 beetle and had to learn how to repair
them, as the locals couldn't (wouldn't.. shouldn't..).  I always marvelled
at how efficient they were, a pint an hour on gas and they would roast the
inside of a beetle. The new ones really aren't that much different, just use
diesel and are more for the heavy truck/ offroad equipment crowd.  Even have
timers so you can have your unit toasty for when you plan to get there in
the morning.  I seriously considered putting one in the 97 Passat, as that
was a cold car in -30, took many miles to warm up in the morning, by which
time my wife was usually blue. Heated seats were the savior there, and
cardboard, and a storm front.
-james

-----Original Message-----
From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
Behalf Of lbaird119 at aol.com
Sent: February-10-14 11:15 PM
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] To warm


  Dad had a gas heater in his '56 Beetle.  VW didn't offer one but Chevy did
so he bought it new and installed it.  Had to put a 12V battery in the trunk
to run it.  Kept the car toasty, thermostatically controlled.  We still have
the heater.  Put exhaust heat recovery on it and it'd double the heat
output!
   Loren



-----Original Message-----
From: Arkady Mirvis <arkadymirvis at gmail.com>
To: Andrew .Libby <libbybapa at gmail.com>; LBaird119 at aol.com
<lbaird119 at aol.com>
Cc: vwfans vwdiesel <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 10, 2014 2:27 pm
Subject: To warm


Once Eberspaecher air heater, emitting 16,000 BTU/HR, was installed in, cold
e this in Beetle or bus, and Vanagon air or water, cold was a history. 
perated by timer the heater pre-warmed the vehicle and by thus guaranteed
omfort in the severest frost. I also did installation of engine - cab eaters
in large 18-wheelers tractor trailers. These 5 Kilowatts heaters ould
preheat large diesel to 158 deg.F in 30 minutes. One needed to turn actory
installed heater ( standard ) for cab heating and Eberspaecher would rovide
a heaven. Once preset temp was reached the heater would go into alf-mode.
Gasoline or diesel burning heaters are very safe and economical evices.
ot that difficult to install.
uestions are welcome.    Ark Mirvis

----Original Message-----
rom: Andrew .Libby
ent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:26 PM
o: LBaird119 at aol.com
c: vwfans vwdiesel
ubject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Too cold
I had a '69 beetle a little over 20 years ago.  It would melt you out of he
car if you were driving on the freeway and then you'd freeze when you ame to
a stop and idled and the hot air was no longer being pushed orward...  The
last air-cooled vanagon I owned was very similar.  My '74 us never had good
heat, but the heater boxes and tube to the front was otted.

n Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:51 AM, <lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>
   Machinist I had one time, was laughing at the fogged up Type 1 that went
by the shop one day.  Local, foreign parts house owner had recently told  me
that if you seal everything up good, they had GOOD heat. Scot then
proceeded to say "yeah, if you build a fire!"  I said Dave also claimed
that a bus had ok heat and was really comfy if you hung a blanket across,
behind the front seats.  Scott then added, a bus WOULD indeed have good
heat if you built TWO fires!  One in front and one in back!
   My work van got uncomfortable once it hit the 20's so I used that advice
and would staple a pad wrapper (sheet of plastic) behind the front seat
area.  Made a HUGE difference between being cold and fairly comfy.  (high
performance 350 engine).
    Loren



 -----Original Message-----
 From: James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net>
 To: lbaird119 <lbaird119 at aol.com>; vwdiesel <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
 Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 3:14 pm
 Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Too cold


 Heck, I drove a 73 bus all winter one year when I was much younger.  Now
 hat was a skimobile.  There was enough heat just off the manifolds for up
 o -20C.  After that, if you pulled onto the highway and got up to speed,
 he heat loss out the front was so impressively fast, you could feel a
 reeze generated by the convection.  Buddy and I used to laugh about the
 hermal black hole it had on the front that operated at highway speed.  In
 he city, I bet it was warmer than most cars, even without the aux heater.
 james


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