Re: 83 UrQ no start

["David R. Derting" <davidder@teleport.com>]

This may or may not be related to the problem.

I have an '83 TQC.  For years I have had intermittent starter problems, 
to wit, 1 out of 50 times the solenoid would not engage.  It never would 
fail to the extent that I was willing to take the time to deal with it.
But finally I found some free time to kill the litte annoyance.

Recently I changed the ignition switch and thought I'd fixed but the 
monster came back to bug me.

I had long thougt it was a "lack of current to the solenoid" problem.  As 
it turns out the current flow is from the ignition switch to the fuse box 
and then out the the solenoid.  On my car it appears the the fuse box was 
limiting the current to the solenoid.  I say this because I re-wired the 
circuit so the high current path to the solenoid by passes the fuse box.  

OLD WIRING

    ignition ----------- fuse --------------solenoid
    switch               box
                          |
                        cold start
                        valve

NEW WIRING

    ignition--------------------------------solenoid
    switch   |
             ------------fuse
                         box
                          |
                         cold start
                         valve

The mods above has finally fixed the problem.  

David
'83 TQC 

On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, 
Richard Funnell wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> >Yup.. its been 10 days since my last donation to the higher ups...
> 
> Sounds like time to me.
> 
> >
> >Its my '83 TQC, lately it started a new trick where I turn the key and
> >absolutely **NOTHING** happens.  With the exception of the buzzer and the
> >correct dash idiot lights, the starter will not engage whatsoever. No
> >click, no dimming lights, no draw on the system at all.  Any clues?
> 
> Ignoring the clues in the next paragraph, this could be:
> 
> -       ignition switch not providing starter juice in start position
> 
> -       solenoid intermittently open
> 
> The easiest thing to check is juice in the start position, since the wire
> is readily accessible under the steering wheel.  If the switch is providing
> juice, it sounds like the solenoid is on vacation.
> 
> >
> >I am able to pop start it no prob.. and when its having an 'episode' I
> >can put it in gear ,and roll it a little (VERY little) and try again, and
> >usually the starter will kick in. (not enough data to verify this, but
> >twice that seemed to be the case.)
> >
> >Any suggestions appreciated.
> >
> >BTW, batter etc all up to snuff... even took of the wires on the
> >alternator and shined them up.... when it does crank, it cranks normal,
> >not slow...
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >
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> Richard Funnell,
> San Jose, California
> '83 urQ
> '87 560 SL
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