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RE: 92 S4 Quattro
I understand that only 248 of the 92 S4 were brought over to the US. They
were considered M5 killers in response to the BMW M5. The 92 S4 has stiffer
suspension, rear sway bars and Wood interior trim which was taken out of the
later models (93). I think everything else is the same as 93 and 94 S4's.
I paid $27,000 for my 92 S4 which is Black on Black with 42,000 miles and has
perforamnce upgrades. The car was in perfect condition.
Tim Miller
tjmill1@uswest.com
92 S4
Denver, Co
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592
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'89 100 Rear calipers
Re: Koni parts
clear turn signal for 93 100
Re: '89 100 Rear calipers
Re: Bearing prices
RE: It eats oil?
1992 S4 Quattro
Re: Undeliverable Message
Re: Koni parts
RE: Koni parts
Re: Bearing prices
Re: Koni parts
RE: It eats oil?
A8's are in Northern Virginia!!
Re: 5000S Engine dead
Re: wanted:875KCSTQ
Re: A8's are in Northern Virginia!!
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From: vilr@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Pierre Villiard)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:13:48 -0300
Subject: '89 100 Rear calipers
Hi Audians,
Congratulations to all for one of the best lists I've subscribed to.
Could someone please tell me where to find left + right rear calipers
for an '89 100 at a more reasonable price than what dealers want? Given
that I'm in New Brunswick, Canada, it's of course expected that they may
have to be ordered from the US or from another province.
Thanks.
Pierre & Lauraine
'92 S4 & '89 100
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From: Andrew Duane USG/PE <duane@zk3.dec.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:55:46 -0500 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Koni parts
Hairy green toads from Mars made Neil Swanson say:
> I had the Konis put in with new wheel bearings months ago. I've been
searching
> for the source of a loose feel in the front end. The loose feel is not
ever
> since the struts were done. The old ones were beat. And the car feels
better
> with new ones but still has some loose feel.
>
> I now have the super wiz bang tool to do the top strut nut and can pull the
> struts out in minutes. I may as well look and see if those parts ever went
in
> or are needed.
>
> I'm also doing a really close look at the tie rod ends etc. The subframe
> bushings are "eh". Some motion but maybe not excessive. Erics' belong
there.
That loose feel is almost certainly worn bushings.
Mike LaRosa can back me up on this, having test driven each others
'89 100's. I've had all my bushings replaced, and the car went from
typical rolly-polly old-car feeling to tight as a drum crispness.
Get those bushings replaced/swapped. You won't regret it.
- --
Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) duane@zk3.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation (603)-881-1294
110 Spit Brook Road
M/S ZKO3-3/U14
Nashua, NH 03062-2698
Only my cat shares my opinions, and she's too heavy to care.
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From: Seung O Lee <qwe@wam.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:33:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: clear turn signal for 93 100
My friends recently installed clear turn signals for their Hondas and I
think they look great. I was wondering if I could do a similar converion
for my 93 100 as well. I noticed the A6 has them. Will it fit my car?
I appreciate any help available. Thanks!
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From: Michael Spiers <mikes@specnet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:40:30 -0400
Subject: Re: '89 100 Rear calipers
> Could someone please tell me where to find left + right rear calipers
> for an '89 100 at a more reasonable price than what dealers want?
If you go the rebuilt calipers route, you want to use Beck Arnley calipers,
and
nothing else. Audi calipers have this one seal that is particularly
difficult
to R&R, and Beck is the only one who can do it without the calipers
developing
a leak within 6 months. Most import auto parts stores stock Beck Arnley, and
altho there is a nation-wide backorder on the rear calipers for the Audi's,
you
can order the calipers loaded (comes with carriers & pads) for not much more
$$, and the loaded ones are relatively abundant (I did the rear calipers on
my
TQ a few months ago...) Good luck!
- --
- -Mike
mikes@specnet.com
mks107@psuvm.psu.edu
87 5000CS TQ - Metropolitan Washington, D.C. (but not for long...)
84 5000S - Boulder, Colorado
90 80 - Bethesda, Maryland
(hunting for the elusive Lago Blue '91 200Q)
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From: "Bob D'Amato" <mx@mamie.snet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:06:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bearing prices
On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, treilley wrote:
> Anyone know where I can get the best price on front wheel bearings?
> So far I have been quoted $84.00/ea and $132.00/ea. Why can't I go to
> a bearing wholesaler and get them? Does anyone have the bearing mfg
> and # for this car? It is an early 1990 Coupe Quattro.
>
Yes, you absolutely can. I went to one in Danbury Ct and got Brand name
bearings (FAG) for the 4kq and installed them. They were about $12 a
piece. If interested, Ill dig up their name and number, they should ship
too...
Bob
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From: "Sheffield Corey" <SHEF@omdc.gso.uri.edu>
Date: 13 Jun 96 15:55:00 EST
Subject: RE: It eats oil?
>Could be oil splashed up onto the cylinder walls by the crank and burned
when the oil level is near max....?
>
>-glen
It could be Glen, but I've always run Amsoil(disclaimer here) and the
vehicle never smokes. It just to 1/2 qt. low and stays there??
Shef
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From: "Tung T. Nguyen" <tungster@aracnet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:54:24 -0700
Subject: 1992 S4 Quattro
Hello all,
I am close to purchasing a 1992 S4 Quattro with 36K miles, in excellent
condition. Does any one have information as to what came standard with
these cars (useful for hashing out prices)? I'm told that they are pretty
rare, but how rare? Any problems with this model?
Thanks very much in advance. Any comments would be appreciated.
Tung Nguyen
Portland, OR
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Portland, OR
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From: frontstage <frntstg9@ally.ios.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:42:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Undeliverable Message
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From: "Gary G. Erickson" <erickson@teleport.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:26:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Koni parts
Andrew Duane USG/PE wrote:
>
> That loose feel is almost certainly worn bushings.
>
> Mike LaRosa can back me up on this, having test driven each others
> '89 100's. I've had all my bushings replaced, and the car went from
> typical rolly-polly old-car feeling to tight as a drum crispness.
>
> Get those bushings replaced/swapped. You won't regret it.
>
Andrew,
Did you find that there was a specific set of bushings that mattered more
than the others? I'm
fighting the same front end looseness on my GT. The only bushings that I've
got left to replace
are the subframe bushings, inner tie rods, and possibly the control arm
bushings. (I'm not
convinced that the shop actually changed them as claimed.)
And the ball joints if you want to classify them in with the bushings.
Thanks,
Gary
- --
'85 Coupe GT
Welches, OR
- ---------------------------------------------------
Gary G. Erickson
Business Solution Integrators, Inc.
503-702-5789 e-mail: erickson@teleport.com
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From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:51:49 -0700
Subject: RE: Koni parts
On that note (or maybe it's completely unrelated), there's a bit of
"slap" in my steering wheel on the 200 when I drive over sharp bumps
(expansion strips, mostly). It feels like a sharp vertical movement in
the whole steering column. I'm not aware of any other problems with my
steering.
Does anybody know what this might be a result of?
Thanks.
- - peter henriksen, peterhe@microsoft.com, issaquah, wa
91 200qw
94 acura legend gs
80 mazda 626
>----------
>From: Andrew Duane USG/PE[SMTP:duane@zk3.dec.com]
>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 1996 1:55 PM
>To: 75377.3445@CompuServe.COM
>Cc: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
>Subject: Re: Koni parts
>
>Hairy green toads from Mars made Neil Swanson say:
>
>> I had the Konis put in with new wheel bearings months ago. I've been
>>searching
>> for the source of a loose feel in the front end. The loose feel is
>>not ever
>> since the struts were done. The old ones were beat. And the car
>>feels better
>> with new ones but still has some loose feel.
>>
>> I now have the super wiz bang tool to do the top strut nut and can pull
the
>> struts out in minutes. I may as well look and see if those parts ever
>>went in
>> or are needed.
>>
>> I'm also doing a really close look at the tie rod ends etc. The subframe
>> bushings are "eh". Some motion but maybe not excessive. Erics'
>>belong there.
>
>That loose feel is almost certainly worn bushings.
>
>Mike LaRosa can back me up on this, having test driven each others
>'89 100's. I've had all my bushings replaced, and the car went from
>typical rolly-polly old-car feeling to tight as a drum crispness.
>
>Get those bushings replaced/swapped. You won't regret it.
>
>--
>
>Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) duane@zk3.dec.com
>Digital Equipment Corporation (603)-881-1294
>110 Spit Brook Road
>M/S ZKO3-3/U14
>Nashua, NH 03062-2698
>
>Only my cat shares my opinions, and she's too heavy to care.
>
------------------------------
From: "Bob D'Amato" <mx@mamie.snet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:25:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bearing prices
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996 pacdev@csn.net wrote:
> I think we'd all appreciate a post on the part numbers for the front
bearings.
> I'm not sure if they are the same for the '83 TQC but I have an old one
that I
> will mike tonight. I'll post the dimensions tomorrow FYI.
>
Ok, heres the info... I just dug it up.. The name of the Place is Axel's
(appropriate, eh?) He makes it pretty easy for us.. tell him what kind of
car you have, he'll tell you what he can get. He's supplied them for all
my audi's so far except the 20v (didnt need them yet). He can get all
the big ones, Timkin, FAG etc... I prefer the FAG's, the retainer seal is
metal as opposed to rubber.
They are in Danbury CT, and their phone number is 203-797-0490. Im sure
they'll ship, they're pretty reasonable, but the price difference is so
huge, if they dont, let me know, Ill pick them up and ship them to you!
Bob
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From: steve.powers@spdg.COM (Steve Powers)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:37:18 +0000 (BST)
Subject: Re: Koni parts
Neil asks:
> Got a question,
>
> The Konis came with a few extra parts and of course no instructions. I got
two
> white plastic washer type thingos and two steel rings. The rings were the
OD of
> the Konis. A spacer maybe? Whatever, garage did the work and all is OK.
I
> guess.
On the Konis I put in my 4000, the white plastic rings sat on top of the
strut insert, just beneath the threaded collar. It was (I believe) to be
some sort of sealing ring as Koni also specified putting about 50 cc
(from memory) of anti-freeze into the strut housing for thermal transfer.
Seemed sort of strange at the time, but that's what the instructions
called for. (even in Dutch as my wife is fluent)
I recall the metal rings as well, but can't remember exactly what they
were for. I believe they're smaller in diameter (vs. the white plastic
ones) but taller in cross section???
steve powers ... '95.5 S6 ... '95 620RX/C ... '91 K100RS-16V ... '88 R100S
spowers@spdg.com * stratos product development group * seattle, washington
"I must tell you that these are strong Bavarian beer-carrying horses, not
the smaller ones of Italy." (Ferdinand Piech)
------------------------------
From: "Bob D'Amato" <mx@mamie.snet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:59:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: It eats oil?
On 13 Jun 1996, Sheffield Corey wrote:
>
> >Could be oil splashed up onto the cylinder walls by the crank and burned
when the oil level is near max....?
> >
> >-glen
>
> It could be Glen, but I've always run Amsoil(disclaimer here) and the
> vehicle never smokes. It just to 1/2 qt. low and stays there??
>
Yeah but, if you arent dripping it, you're burning it. No choice
here...as minute as it might be, it probably is burning it. It can be
pretty unnoticeable. Ill wager with Glen on this one..
Bob
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Information and Technology Center |Fax: 203-773-3398
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From: Michael Spiers <mikes@specnet.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:05:31 -0400
Subject: A8's are in Northern Virginia!!
Breezing thru HBL in Tyson's Corner after work tonight (yes, I came back to
work to type about the car), rummaging thru the Audi row & wondering why the
only A6 quattro's were wagons, look up towards the building, & see two A4's
on
steroids. Closer inspection revealed the purple A8 quattro 4.2 that I saw in
Denver three weeks ago, and a black A8 3.7 non-quattro (but a sweet looking
sport interior, with the S-logo imprinted on the steering wheel.) Went
inside
to ask questions, only one in the place who knows Audi's is Jack Carpenter.
"Wanna take her for a spin?" Half hour later (after convincing him I was a
lunatic during one of the corners I powered thru) we brought the 4.2 quattro
back 'cuz it was out of gas. Man, what a ride. First time I'd played with
the
4 speed Tiptonic (sp?) Loved being able to shift an automatic!
Unbelieveably
smooth, accelerated like a bat out of hell. Handled like a dream, HUGE _255_
tires wrapped around 17" wheels. Egad. They'll only be there three more
dayz,
so head over & ask for Jack Carpenter. I can't brag enough about that car.
Anyone got $60,000 they want to loan me?
- --
- -Mike
mikes@specnet.com
mks107@psuvm.psu.edu
87 5000CS TQ - Metropolitan Washington, D.C. (but not for long...)
84 5000S - Boulder, Colorado
90 80 - Bethesda, Maryland
(hunting for the elusive Lago Blue '91 200Q)
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From: "Les Lampman" <llampman@islander.whidbey.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:20:00 +0000
Subject: Re: 5000S Engine dead
Tom, I fully agree with the Al Powell comments. Your mechanic knows you
have low comp. and that's all he knows. At this point concentrate on
diagnostics...
wet/dry is good... any mechanic can do it. I prefer a leakdown test myself
... because we do boat engines and usually engine removal runs into
thousands of dollars (they didn't build the damned things to be
worked on) and we must be sure.. .. Sometimes finding a mechanic who has
leakdown equipment and knows how to use it aint easy--but at least
you then should have a good idea where the compression is going.
Gasoline washing cyl walls and rings to cause that kind of
compression loss would be way down my list of suspects. The I5 is a tough,
tough
engine. Cooked valves from pre-ignition/detonation, or overheating is
a possible, but so are other things.
Certainly agree with Al that a used engine is unwise at
this point. Used engines are big question marks unless you know the
history. BTDT (cubed). Much rather rebuild a head on my own enigne,
or even a rebore/ring job if necessary.
I don't call myself an expert! There are many of those on this
list. Just trying to help...
Les
> Tom, be sure you get both a wet and dry px reading before you spring
> for a new engine. Have your mech get a dry reading, then squirt
> enough oil (30 wt okay)in cyls to wet down the sidewalls. If the wet
> test brings the pressure up, then rings it could be. With all cyls
> down that low it's a good chance rings are bad, but I'd also make sure
> the valve timing is okay... couple of minutes to check that.
> Les
>
>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<Tom Johnson, you sent>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:24:37 +0000
>
> > First of all, let me thank everyone who sent me a reply regarding the
> > problems with my 85 5000S. I took it to another mechanic, who is
> > familiar with Audi's. The verdict from him is that my engine is shot.
> >
> > It's still hard for me to believe that my engine could be dead at under
> > 100K miles, but this is what his explaination was: He said that my
> > compression is only ~50-60 psi per cylinder (which unfortunately
> > confirms what my first mechanic said) and was probably caused by the
> > fuel leaking into my cylinders. He said this could be caused by me
> > cranking the engine when it was stalled (in the attempt to start it
> > again) or by an ignition system problem which he hasn't bothered
> > looking into further since its useless at this point. Apparently,
> > enough fuel got into the cylinders without igniting and mixed with the
> > oil and presto - wore out the rings.
> >
> > A used engine is going to run me $675 plus installation and a rebuilt
> > one is outrageous (got prices from $2,000 and up, not including
> > installation). Considering the amount that I could get another Audi
> > for and that getting a new engine still isnt going to solve my ignition
> > system problem, Im going to scrap the car. So unless someone can prove
> > this mechanic wrong, Im afraid that my Audi is dead.
> >
> > I would greatly appreciate any input on this situation (i.e: your
> > mechanic is full of it as gas wont wear out the ring, or there's no way
> > gas can get into the engine to wear it out.) I need to get my car out
> > of my mechanics shop ASAP, so any responses by tommorrow would be
> > great.
> >
> > I look forward to buying another Audi (maybe an 87 or 88 5KS) while I
> > mourn the death of my old one:-(. Let me also add that this mailing
> > list has been a great help.
> >
> >
>
>
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From: savidesn@audvid.win.net (Darin Nederhoff)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:44:24
Subject: Re: wanted:875KCSTQ
>Hello all,
>I hopefully will be running into a significant sum of money
What!?! You gonna broadside a new Mercedes Benz? ;) hehehe
(Sorry, couldn't resist.... ;)
>and want to purchase an 87 5KCSTQ or 5KCSQ or just a turbo.
>I wantg information on any for sale in the U.S.
What part of the country are you in? I'll keep my eyes open. (As
is they were shut most of the time... hehehe ;)
Later,
Darin
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From: Dave Head <dhead@sundial.sundial.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:30:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: A8's are in Northern Virginia!!
At 08:05 PM 6/13/96 -0400, you wrote:
> "Wanna take her for a spin?" Half hour later (after convincing him I was a
>lunatic during one of the corners I powered thru) we brought the 4.2 quattro
>back 'cuz it was out of gas. Man, what a ride. First time I'd played with
the
>4 speed Tiptonic (sp?) Loved being able to shift an automatic!
Unbelieveably
>smooth, accelerated like a bat out of hell. Handled like a dream, HUGE
_255_
>tires wrapped around 17" wheels. Egad.
BTW - Did the rims survive??? :-)
********************************AUDI FAN******************************
EMCM(SW) Dave Head (nuclear grade electrician)
87 5KCSTQ 170K miles (VDO now fixing my odometer!)
1.9 bar boost (charlie spring, no shim) - @ 1.3 the shuttle launches!
Maitland FL
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