No, it's not MadTV :) What did everyone think of the green 4000 I took pictures of in Germany? Does that look like the ABT grille kit we talked about? The URL is at http://coimbra.ans.net/spy.html if you haven't seen it. -- Dan Simoes dans@ans.net ANS http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html 100 Clearbrook Road (914) 789-5378 (voice) Elmsford, NY 10523 (914) 789-5310 (fax)