Re: 210's vs Hoka NRW's

["Eric Harman" <ericha@seanet.com>]

"Absolutely hates them"  would be too strong.  

    My  feedback to  the group was after just  having been 
beaten by a BMW 540i on East Mercer Way. [Very twisty for 
you non-Northwesterners] Yes, I think they were a poor choice
for me.  I think they are great in the snow, but give too much
away in the dry and the rain.  Now partly my comparison is
unfair since the only other tires I've had on the car are a set
of +0 Dunlop D40M2s.  However, contrasting these with the
snow tires on my other car ('90 626) I would say they are a
little better in the snow, but aren't nearly as good in the dry
or rain.  The other tires are Semperit Top-Grips that I have
had for about 7 years and are studless.  Unfortunately you
can't get the Semperits anymore or it would have been an
easy choice.  
[For those in the Northwest list:
    As an example I was driving south on 405 tonight around
7:00 in an incredible downpour.  I was heading up the hill
from the 522 Interchange towards the 160th exit.  I was doing
just under 70 in the left lane and it starting hydroplaning a bit.
That's something that the wider D40M2s wouldn't have done. 
-end Northwest content]
    I use the method of having two sets of rims and tires.  I 
switch over just twice a year, November and March.  For me
I think a true snow tire is a necessity since both cars are only
front wheel drive and I do a bit of skiing.  I think, though, that
with the amount of driving I do in the dry and in the rain, rain,
rain I needed a true snow tire that is more performance oriented,
perhaps the Pirelli 210 or an equivalent.  At least until I buy
a Subaru.  Naah, I'll still use two sets of rims.  

    -Eric Harman (ericha@seanet.com)
    Seattle
    '94 Nissan Maxima SE
        summer: 215/60ZR-15 Dunlop D40M2 
        winter: 205/65QR-15 Yokohama Guardex 600
    '90 Mazda 626 Touring Sedan GT
        summer: 205/55ZR-15 Dunlop D40M2
        winter: 195/60TR-15 Semperit Top-Grip

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> From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
> To: northwest audi enthusiasts <audi-nw@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: FW: 210's vs Hoka NRW's
> Date: Monday, January 27, 1997 4:05 PM
> 
> Sorry for the bandwidth, but I don't have Eric Harmann's e-mail
> address...
> 
> Eric, would you mind telling these nice guys why it is that you hate the
> Guardex?
> 
> Thanks.
> - peter
> 
....
> >> A former list member has them on his Nissan Maxima SE and
> >absolutely
> >> hates them. Don't remember exactly why, though...
> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From:	Leah Mueller [SMTP:muellerl@cadvision.com]
> >> > Have you OR any another Audiknights had experience with the Yoko
> >> > Guardex 600 and the incorporation of the nylon stud like material.
> >> > Do they stick good?  How do they compare with the other studless
> >> > tech?
> >
> >I'd be interested in hearing why he hates them.  I've got them on
....
> >Dan Masi
> >'96 A4Q
> >