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<Re: the recent post -
<Subject: Volvo tried to BRIBE Judges to overturn the Court case!!! (fwd)
<Why was this posted??????????? This is an Audi list. I could
<not care less about Volvo getting their anatomies in a tight
<place.....
Amen....not to mention that the original post left it totally unclear what
was fact and what was, to use a word directly from the post, "rumor." For
those who think it's not irresponsible to portray rumors as fact, take a
look at Audi resale values (and the state of the company) following the
whole U-A fiasco.
On a related subject, I've always wondered why the popular press only
mentions 2 brands, V*lvo and M-B, when they talk about the "safest cars in
the world." I know they both make wonderfully safe cars, but Audis have
consistently tested as well as, or *better* than, any other car on the
road. Why does the press always forget that when talking about the safest
cars? For that matter, why doesn't Audi make a bigger deal of it? Not
that I'd want to blow the lid off our little secret.... :) Just curious.
- Dave
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From: jackr@internet.kronos.com
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 11:28:07 EST
Subject: Re: Coil Spring Life
>you may want to do a poor-man's test--bounce a corner of the car with your
body
weight. It shouldn't bounce more than 1.5 to 2 times, with decreasing
travel.
This is a shock test, not a spring test. If the shocks are worn, they
won't absorb the bouncing of the car. (I also think 2 times indicates
worn-out shocks.)
Jack Rich
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From: Mann Law <mannlaw@indy.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:28:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Intercooler
Someone was needing to replace the intercooler and asked about
the tAp intercooler. My question is: How much $$$$ we talkin'? If you
are talking big money, you may want to try and find a stock one in the
junk yard for cheap--and wait. I know for a fact several on this list
are working on intercooler upgrades--that really will be an "upgrade" not
just a modification. Stay tuned.
Bruce
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From: todd candey <tcandey@wwa.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 10:44:15 -0800
Subject: Re: Mt. Wash in 4kQ??
Bob D'Amato wrote:
>
> I need the opinion of the huge knowledge base here at Audi Central. Im
> thinking about running the 84 4kq in the Climb to the Clouds. Now Im sure
> the thing couldnt possible be competitive (unless there are some diesel
> chevette automatics running) but it would still be a hoot. Am I wasting
> my time? Should I do it? Will people point and laugh?!?! Its bone stock,
> so theres no chance of any success coming from it. (wait, are the
> electric cars running??? Maybe I can convince them....)
>
> Any input appreciated.
> TIA
> Bob
MAybe you could enter a race where all of the cars go back down the
mountain under gravity power. Might be a chance there eh?
- --
Todd Candey The Composite Garage
271A Greenboro Ct. 81 4k 5+5
Elk Grove Village, IL 85 4ksq
60007 USA 89 90q
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From: Jonathan Monetti <jmonetti@us.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:11:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: this Jonathan Monetti BS'ing
Sorry Elliot & list, that was supposed to be a private reply!
I may just go back to carrier pidgeon.
Jonathan Monetti
86 Coupe GT, 84k
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From: Paul_Royal@idx.com
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:16:50 -0400
Subject: Brake BMP for 90Q20v
Hi Folks,
How much fun is this? I had to draw up a rough bitmap of the disc
brake rotor for my 1990 90Q20v. The bitmap
contains all the measurements from top hat (offset) to width and diameter
to within +/- 2mm...but is not to scale.
If anybody wants it, I'll send it out as is (that is...in BMP file
form).
Getting the corrrect rotor (part number suffix 301"A") is not fun
unless you want to get hosed by a dealer.
This is a potential problem for any 1990 90Q20v owners that have not done
the G60 conversion and have the original
Girling calipers with a 256mm rotor as opposed to the 276mm rotor.
"MAIL ME DIRECT TO REGISTER FOR NE-QC-USA MT.WASHINGTON HILLCLIMB EVENT"
Paul W. Royal......Exeter, New Hampshire
Senior Project Leader-IDX Systems Corp. Boston, MA USA
90 90Q20v...titanium, platinum leather, cold weather pack, 15in Borbet
C's
Member QC-USA/BMW-CCA
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From: David M Sugerman <dsugerma@runet.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:28:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [none]
Question regarding 89' 80 quattro.
I recently purchased this car from a friend of a friend and it
has 117k on the odometer. Everything is perfect except for the sluggish
manner in which the sunroof slides closed. It seems well lubed and does
this in any temp. Will someone please tell me this is perfectly normal
and it will last forever so I can rest easy tonight? I've been kinda
helping it along so it will close faster. Will this do more harm than
good? Any speculation on how much longer it will last?
your help will be greatly appreciated.
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From: David M Sugerman <dsugerma@runet.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:28:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [none]
Question regarding 89' 80 quattro.
I recently purchased this car from a friend of a friend and it
has 117k on the odometer. Everything is perfect except for the sluggish
manner in which the sunroof slides closed. It seems well lubed and does
this in any temp. Will someone please tell me this is perfectly normal
and it will last forever so I can rest easy tonight? I've been kinda
helping it along so it will close faster. Will this do more harm than
good? Any speculation on how much longer it will last?
your help will be greatly appreciated.
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From: SOP8920@Siena.edu
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:46:34 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Gasoline exposure risk [2]
I wrote:
> In light of the recent discussion of Christian's unfortunate accident I took
>it upon myself to investigate a bit. I dug up the following article on the
>internet
[snip abstract]
>Christian may not have any health affects right now, or 10 years from now.
>However, in the future he might have many due to this exposure.
>FYI...
>Take care!
I just wanted to apologize to the list for the unintended off-color remarks at
the end. A fellow lister (Todd) pointed it out to me.
I posted the note about the gas exposure risk as an advisory. I've been guilty
in the past of improperly handling gasoline. Just recently, I replaced the fuel
lines in my Q and spent a good hour or two with my hands soaked in gasoline
while I fiddled underneath the car. Gas is a something we all handle with
regularity, and most likely with little regard. If I had been thinking, I
should have washed my hands immediately upon contact with gas and probably have
even worn gloves. I figured that since I was "awoken" out of my ignorance by
Christian's unfortunate incident, I would pass along the warning. Gasoline IS a
toxic substance that should be handled with care.
I didn't intend to put a foul flavor to the post with the off-color ending
towards Christian. It was late, I was tired, and I fired it off without
rereading the post. I extend my sincerest apologies to Christian and the rest
of the list.
-Osman Parvez
89 200q (156K miles)
Siena College
Albany NY
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From: "Sean Ford" <sean@nwh.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:55:37 -0500
Subject: Blocked cat, or bad gas? It certainly smells like bad gas!
Just this past weekend, and through to today, I've noticed the ol' rotten
egg smell eminating from my '92 100 after short trips (less than 10 miles).
I searched the archives and read about the possibility of the catalytic
converter having some type of blockage (which also may explain the rocking
engine idle due to excess back pressure), so I called my mechanic and
asked him about it. He suggests trying another brand of gas (I'm currently
using Texeco premium, 93 octane), and I'm wondering if anyone has had a
problem with certain brands of gasoline?
Sean Ford
sean@nwh.org
Newton-Wellesley Hospital
Newton, MA 02162 (USA)
'92 Audi 100CS 5spd 17K miles (and counting!)
'89 Suzuki Katana 600 14K miles (and hibernating)
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From: RCARSELLE@aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:53:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: 88 5KCSTQ Turbo Cooler ?
Fellow listers.....
Cooling system question....can anyone provide me with the Audi part number
for the Turbo cooling hose which orginates at the upper radiator return hose
connection of the engine manifold...proceeds around the front of the engine
block to the turbo side of the engine and connects to mr. turbo....this hose
also has the "banjo" bolt type ends of a typical high pressure hose as well
as a rubber hose portion....if you know this part number for an 88 5KCSTQ
then please let me know. Jim at BLAU does not sell this part....but I didn't
want to call Linda till I had the part number in hand. TIA
RC
90 90
88 5KCSTQ
Rob Carselle - Columbus, OH
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From: "R. Tonge" <rptonge@u.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:56:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Yokohama Tires
John, I had A510's on a Golf GTI and an MGBGT in the UK and they are
simply brilliant, a lot of the racing/fast road people in the UK have been
fitting them and the magazines have raved about them. They are not as good
as the A008 for out and out track work but are a whole lot better for the
more variable road surfaces we encounter. I enquired about them in the US
and most of the tire places dont know what your talking about although I
think tire rack has them only in 1 size, a 16" I think.
Rob
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From: tgsgronback@mindspring.com (Steve Gronback)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:08:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: battery
I've heard from a reliable source that Interstate is a heckuva good battery.
Diehards apparently are not manufactured to high tolerances anymore, and
you can expect variations.
The next battery I buy will be an Interstate.
Steve Gronback
TGS Studios
91 Audi 200q
Look KG 96 Team Replica
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From: Raj AUDIocee <umdioce0@cc.umanitoba.ca>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:25:12 -0600
Subject: RE: Starting blues...
Well, heres my 2 cents on this. My 84 4000s never gave me trouble
starting until last winter, all of a sudden, on a cold start it would
take 6 or 7 tries and a lot of cranking. I took it to a shop, and they
went through the basics (ie. new spark plugs and stuff) No difference.
Then I took it to my mechanic here in winnipeg (german car specialists),
They did the same basics( again new spark plugs, check timing and
stuff). And again no difference. Then they changed all 5
injectors($$$$). Still no difference. Now we were getting frustrated. He
said it is common for audis to do this. I dont think so, we sat down and
looked at everything, only thing we hadnt checked yet was the
distributor. Next day found the distributor was shorted. Picked one up
from a used parts yard, starts fine now. I guess dont overlook the
obvious. All the work I got done ran about 6-700 bucks, whereas the
distributor was only like 40. Could've save a whole lotta trouble. Hope
it helps.
Raj Diocee.
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From: DeWitt Harrison <de@aztek.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 11:41:01 MST
Subject: Re: An Open Letter: Insufferable Q-list Abuse
But if the aggrieved persons are willing, even enthusiastic victims,
isn't the transgressor perhaps simply doing the right thing?
Just a thought (and not much of one at that).
DeWitt Harrison de@aztek
Boulder, CO
88 5kcstq
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:48:35 GMT Phil Payne wrote:
>In message <199703181313.IAA00006@mh004.infi.net> "Bart Chambers" writes:
>
>> An apology is only worthy of the name when it is offered by someone who
knows
>> that *s/he* has transgressed the boundaries of civilized conduct, ...
>
>Am I the only one who instantly thought of VAG's spare parts price list?
>
>- --
> Phil Payne
> phil@sievers.com
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From: tnas@euronet.nl (Tom Nas)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:56:03 +0100
Subject: Re: An Open Letter: Insufferable Q-list Abuse
quk@sievers.com (Phil Payne) wrote:
>> An apology is only worthy of the name when it is offered by someone who
>>knows
>> that *s/he* has transgressed the boundaries of civilized conduct, ...
>Am I the only one who instantly thought of VAG's spare parts price list?
Hahahahahahaha! I was thinking of my dealer experience as well!
Tom
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From: tnas@euronet.nl (Tom Nas)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:56:15 +0100
Subject: Re: Recent first-time Audi buyer...
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:53:55 +0100
>To:Ian Rawlings <Ian.Rawlings@UK.Quza.com>
>From:tnas@euronet.nl (Tom Nas)
>Subject:Re: Recent first-time Audi buyer...
>
>Hi Ian,
>
>>Hello all, I've recently become the (very) proud owner of a British 1988
>>'E' reg Audi 90 Quattro and am finding it hard to find out details about
>>the car. All I know so far is that it is a 10-vaulve engine, probably
>>2.2 litre. I don't know which series it is, or any other identifying
>>details. Does anyone know enough about these cars to help me out a
>>little? I don't know if it has Procon-10 or not, it has "air
>>conditioning", which is pretty much an air cooler more than anything
>>else.
>
>I've got the poor relation of your car, a 1988 80 1.8S FWD. Concrats with
>your new car, hope you like it! The specs of your car are: 2309 cc engine,
>136 hp @ 5700 rpm, torque 190 Nm @ 4500 rpm, twin ohc, injection. OE tyres
>were195/60 VR 14, and it came with power steering and ABS as standard. It
>accelerates from 0-100 km/h (60 mph) in 8.9 s and has a top speed of 206
>km/h (129 mph). It should run on Super Unleaded.
>
>>I've also found it hard to get any documentation on it. I looked for
>>some haynes manuals, but could only find manuals for the 90, not the 90
>>Quattro. I called Haynes and they said that they have never produced any
>>manuals for the Quattros, and never will, although they
>>couldn't/wouldn't tell me why.
>
>Probably because the Qs were never great sellers in relation to the FWD
>cars. The engine data in the non-q manuals are pertinent to your car
>though, as are most of the electrics-related data. For quattro-related
>stuff you'd better look into the Bentley manuals or VAG parts fiches,
>although the Bentleys are US-centred and differ on many points from the
>European versions. Strange though, that there's no mention in the Haynes
>of quattro... I've seen a Dutch translation of the Haynes which had a
>quattro section!
>
>HTH,
>
>Tom
>
>
_______________________________________________________________________
Tom Nas Zeist, The Netherlands
tnas@euronet.nl
'What are you going to do when you grow up as big as I?'
asked the father of his son. 'Diet.'
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