My thanks to all of those who confirmed my fear that it was the dreaded window regulator. Now knowing what is making the sound it all makes sense. Time to fix I suppose... Thanks! =============================== Robert A. Dupree rdupree@sidley.com Network Engineer 312.853.7487 p Sidley&Austin 312.853.7036 f Chicago, IL 60603 800.728.0480 pager ===============================