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Clutch Vibration on the A4.
I have just bought an Audi A4, front wheel drive with the standar
transmission. I have notice some vibration on the clutch pedal when depres
for changing gears. It seems that the engine is transmitting this vibration
to the pedal. It is not very noticesable but it can be feel anyway. Is this
vibration comoon on this model or should I check it?
Thanks.
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> Date: Viernes 24 de Octubre de 1997 6:33 AM
>
>
> quattro-digest Friday, October 24 1997 Volume 04 : Number
1261
>
>
>
> *
> * Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
> * See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info.
> * In this issue:
> Re: Putting in my own oil temp sensor
> UnBearable story (was Re: A Bear of a story...)
> Re: Why an SUV?
> Re: 5000tq Mods
> Re: Re: 5000tq Mods
> Re: Sport Seats!
> Mid-Engined Quattro
> 89 100 Ignition ECU
> A first car for my son - update
> RE: Manuals/Bentley vs. Haynes
> Messages not getting through...
> Stock CIS, running out of gas at 2 bar?
> Stock CIS, running out of gas at 2 bar?
> RE: A first car for my son - update
> RE: Manuals/Bentley vs. Haynes
> RE: Lights in 5000/200 front bumper?
> S6 sighting in CT - are you on the list
> Haynes 80/90 manual
> RE: A Bear of a story...
> Re: '93 Audi 90 - Power System
> Re: 5000tq Mods
> RE: Steering Column Switch
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:31:36 -0700
> From: Igor Kessel <e6941tb@ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: Putting in my own oil temp sensor
>
> Sachelle Babbar wrote:
> >
> > How do I install an oil temp sensor in my car? How much do the parts
cost?
> > What about an oil pressure gauge? I would like to keep the dummy
lights.
>
> I installed those gauges on both the '85 5000s and the '88 Fox.
Personally, I could
> do away without any gauge in the car except for the tach and the oil
pressure. Oil
> pressure gauge is an absolute must-have, IMHO.
>
> The most cost effective way is to get one from JCWhitney. My Fox wears
the Oil
> Pressure, Oil Temperature and the Voltmeter from that cat.
>
> The neat thing is that Audi/VW use bores with 10x1mm threads for gauges.
Imperial
> 1/8 NPT is almost equal to 10x1mm and is conical (NPT has 27 threads per
inch, so the
> step is 25.4/27, i.e. almost 1mm). I just screw in the 1/8 NPT brass
adapter with
> Teflon tape until it jams and that's it. Don't get overzealous, though.
> No leaks have been noticed so far on all the cars that I've ever done
this way.
>
> BTW, I always use a standard 1/8 NPT brass T (male-fem-fem). Male goes
into the
> block, one fem takes the OEM idiot light switch (either the white one or
the brown
> one, does not matter), the other fem takes the gauge sender. The computer
function is
> retained and you aquire the analogue gauge at the same time.
>
>
> - --
> Igor Kessel
> '89 200TQ - 18psi (TAP)
> '98 A4TQ - on order...again. For the third time and counting.
> Philadelphia, PA
> USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:22:20 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Virtual Bob <h93young@creighton.edu>
> Subject: UnBearable story (was Re: A Bear of a story...)
>
> > While staying with a friend in the Yosemite Valley, I awoke the next
> > morning to find that a bear had attempted to gain access to my
> > car. Apparently it had seen something that it wanted, even though had
> > taken all the food inside with me.
> > ...
> > I called my insurance (American Family) that morning to report the
> > damage. I go for an official estimate next week.
>
> May be what you should do is call AoA (or someone). Tell them that "Hot
> damn! Would you belive your A4 is so popular, that even the bears wanted
> to test drive it!?" And see if you can trade it in (free) for the S4.
> Tell them you're a good advertiser. (^:
>
> > I've never had to file a claim before, nor have any extensive paint
> > work done on any other vehicle. What exactly is involved in a complete
> > repaint? Do they "strip" the car first, or just paint over the old
> > paint?
>
> When I had to file insurance claims, my family and friends just told me
to
> be as vague as possible. I guess in your case, you should just tell 'em
> that, "Well, uh... the bear got it... That's *ALL* I remember..." Also
> proceed to show the scrach 'n' dents on you.
>
> Well, sorry to hear about that. You're not gonna go back and hunt the
> bear, are you?
>
> (:
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:54:40 -0700
> From: Igor Kessel <e6941tb@ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: Why an SUV?
>
> Eliot Lim wrote:
>
> > i'd like to invite the Q crowd to check it out and give me some
feedback
> > before i put it out for mass circulation. be forewarned that all hate
> > mail will be published alongside the article! (and i have gotten one
> > already)
> >
> > http://www.eskimo.com/~eliot/suvsuck.html
>
> Bravo, Eliot! I applode you. Nice job.
>
> - --
> Igor Kessel
> '89 200TQ - 18psi (TAP)
> '98 A4TQ - on order...again. For the third time and counting.
> Philadelphia, PA
> USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 23:05:22 -0700
> From: "Scott M." <scottmo@teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: 5000tq Mods
>
> Randall,
>
> Please accept my apologies, I mis-judged your intent with
> the previous post about the new E.F. turbo etc. setup. I
> guess when I saw the line "Although I am not at liberty to
> discuss the full specifics of the car", the hissy fit meter
> got pegged. Actually having a hissy fit can be fun.....but
> I digress.
>
> I NOW understand why you did not give any details on the
> new turbo/ECU setup etc. but when I first read your post,
> I misread it as marketing hype, and being interested in
> some basic details I did not understand the motive behind
> your post. It would have been nice to see something vague
> like:
>
> The new turbo is a K2_ hybrid with a smaller hot side,
> larger cold side etc, (fill in the blanks) the Mac 11 ECU
> has a new 2.5 bar pressure sensor and new code in the EPROM
> to allow monitoring and accurately controlling boost above
> 2.0 where the stock boost sensor craps out. The new larger
> intercooler reduces inlet temperature by 50 degrees even at
> 2.5 bar boost levels etc. The add on fuel enrichment device
> which is controlled by boost pressure which ensures
> adequate fuel is being delivered at full boost and high
> RPM. (Note: all of the above is made up by me)
>
> I realize that E.F. may have been the only one to provide
> this basic info, so again. Please accept my apologies.
>
> Scott M.
> CHIPLESSDIPPLESSDUDE
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 23:37:07 -0700
> From: "Scott M." <scottmo@teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: 5000tq Mods
>
> Eric,
>
> > #1 it's not an infomercial.... I have no desire to sell
> any of these
> > mods....... NONE. There are at most going to be three
> cars running this
> > setup, That's it.
>
> My mistake, I contacted Randall with my apologies.
> >
> > #2 The at Liberty comment is from the computer
> reprogrammer. I'm in the
> > process of testing chips, when we have it nailed it will
> be up to them to
> > do with it what they want. I not selling it, all I get is
> free chips
> > programmed the way I want them.
>
> Thanks for clarifying this issue and for helping us
> listmembers develop higher horsepower mods for the MC
> engine.
>
> > #3 Anyone that e-mails me privatly will get info on the
> mods,
>
> Great, thanks for sharing this important development.
>
> >Let me just say this though, what I have in the car now
> will outrun just about any
> > other MC engine around. Especially any of the "Rs2"
> wannabe's.........
> > Even Ned is damned impressed.
>
> Great, it is about time someone around here gets to drive a
> fast Audi.
>
> > Well chippendude......... I know for a fact what is being
> done in my box
> > is much more extensive than your Qlcc chip (which I do
> belive you
> > sell....)
>
> Well, actually my tag line was/is CHIPDIPPINDUDE, I know it
> is hard
> to remember, I guess it is getting old and needs to change.
> I didn't come up with the official QLCC version
> of the chip, Dave Lawson did that, and I understand this
> QLCC chip has been installed by many people on the list
> who are providing this mod to other people for a nominal
> cost. It works very well for many people wanting a low
> cost upgrade to 1.9 bar. My chip that I provide is very
> similar but
> actually is more conservative with less boost ~1.8 bar.
> I felt that many people on the list wanted something
> reasonably priced and dead
> nuts reliable.
>
> >Does your mod provide over 16psi of boost in FIRST gear
> with
> > no brake torquing? 2nd through 5th gear gives 26psi of
> boost.
>
> No, of course not, as stated above, but then I didn't
> realize I entered into
> a contest of "mine is bigger than yours"
>
> >And yes I have the fuel to support that boost as
> evidenced by my Exhaust Gas Temp
> > readings of 1325F peak temp. We did more than just raise
> the boost limit.
>
> Well, that is great, good job, I can't wait to hear about
> the
> details.
>
> Again, sorry about my poor reaction to Randall's post,
> looks like too much caffeine this morning.
>
> Take care and enjoy your Audi
> Scott M.
> 89 200TQ
> ChipFlippinGipper
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 01:53:43 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Virtual Bob <h93young@creighton.edu>
> Subject: Re: Sport Seats!
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, John Karasaki wrote:
>
> >>Many of you prolly noticed the S4 office chairs for sale in the latest
> >>Quattro Quarterly. I bought one today for $695.00 + shipping from
Rapid
> >>Parts. They have complete seat sets for cheap I'm told, haven't heard
> >>...
>
> >David,
> >
> >...
> >
> >No offense, but almost $700 for ONE S4 seat attached to an office chair
> >base! Yikes!
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >
> >John Karasaki
> >
> >Audi Quattro Fanatic
>
> Soooo, you call yourself an Audi fanatic, huh? Well, meet David, the REAL
> Audi fanatic! (^:
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:01:30 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Mid-Engined Quattro
>
> In message <9710232225.AA19919@mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV>
ptimmerm@mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV writes:
>
> > Some may remember that just before Audi pulled the plug on
> > rallying in the groupe B days, when they were getting
> > stomped by tube frame custom jobs, there were rumors of
> > a mid-engined Audi Quattro rally car.
>
> Members of the UK Club will have seen the picture of Audi's "secret"
rally car
> in the Club Magazine at the beginning of the year. It's still in the
museum at
> Ingolstadt - it was never driven in public.
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:51:11 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: 89 100 Ignition ECU
>
> In message
<3.0.3.32.19971023224945.0069c43c@bl-mail2.corpeast.baynetworks.com>
mlarosa@BayNetworks.COM (Mike LaRosa) writes:
>
> > Couple weeks back I went thru a car wash and had the undercarriage
> > washed. Car ran fine on the way home. Next day, pulled out of the
> > driveway and when I hit 3000rpm almost exactly, it was like hitting
> > a rev limiter.
>
> Was the engine running while it was being washed?
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:54:03 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: A first car for my son - update
>
> In message <344FFC8D.4BCD6200@sni.net> Al Feldman writes:
>
> > Anyway, if anyone needs to teach someone how to drive a standard
> > transmission, ...
>
> LOL. In one post I hear amusement about Haynes' explanation of "torch" -
and
> in the next someone describing the difficulties of coming to terms with
manual
> transmissions ...
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:39:23 +0200
> From: Aleksander Mierzwa <alex@matrix.com.pl>
> Subject: RE: Manuals/Bentley vs. Haynes
>
> Jevon, you may want to check http://www.haynes.com for that. It seems
> that there is a manual for 80/90, but was published only in UK.
>
> Aleksander Mierzwa
> Warsaw, Poland
> mailto:alex@matrix.com.pl
> 87 Audi 5000CS turbo (mine)
> 88 Renault Medallion wagon (mom's)
> 91 mountain bike (just in case both cars broke at the same time :-)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jevon B. Dade [SMTP:jdade@usibr01.usi.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 1997 6:09 AM
> > To: Perry, Christopher
> > Cc: 'Mark L. Chang'; 'Quattro List'
> > Subject: RE: Manuals/Bentley vs. Haynes
> >
> > is there a Haynes manual avail. for 80/90 ?
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > j. dade
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:12:01 +0200
> From: Gerard <gerard@poboxes.com>
> Subject: Messages not getting through...
>
> Hi!
>
> I subscribed to this list a few days ago and posted a fairly long
> message. I've sent it 3 times now, but it never seems to arrive on
> the Quattro list. I sent a smaller one, it got through. Why are my
> posts not getting through?
>
> G.
> - --
> "a thousand miles from here, there is another person smiling"
> name : gerard van vught
> tel : +27-57-912 2658 (w) / 082 923 9609 (cell)
> url : http://www.acenet.co.za/homepages/gerard/
> e-mail : gerard@poboxes.com / han.solo@galaxycorp.com
> gerard@acenet.co.za / van_vught@frg.issi.co.za
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:00:46 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Stock CIS, running out of gas at 2 bar?
>
> In message <199710240354.UAA08285@mail1.teleport.com> "Scott M." writes:
>
> >> The travel of the air flow sensor plate is not linear
> >> just look at the shape of the funnel the plate rides in.
> >> All of the air goes around the plate and the shape of the
> >> funnel regulates the amount of lift and the amount of fuel.
> >
> > Well according to the Bosch book, with the K-Lamda system,
> > the movement of the plate and the corresponding movement of
> > the plunger is indeed linear. But, I will look into this
> > some more and see as I am not convinced the movement is
> > linear either.
>
> You guys are both right - but you're talking about different things.
>
> The relationship between plate displacement and plunger displacement
> is linear.
>
> The relationship between air volume and plate displacement is _NOT_
> linear and is governed by a whole shitload of factors including
> funnel shape, air viscosity, etc.
>
> Changing the funnel shape is one of the options.
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:09:43 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Stock CIS, running out of gas at 2 bar?
>
> In message <199710231746.KAA13201@mail1.teleport.com> "Scott M." writes:
>
> > I was doing some testing yesterday on my 89 200TQ where I
> > measured the voltage output from the CIS Air-flow plate
> > potentiometer (used for fuel mileage calculation). This
> > potentiometer (variable resistor) tells the dash computer
> > how high the air-flow plate rises while you are driving.
>
> I've seriously considered using this measurement for a number
> of reasons, most recently determining precise plate position at
> idle.
>
> > With the ign. key on and the air flow plate pushed up by
> > hand to the top of its travel (max air flow) the voltage
> > output was 4.465 V.
>
> There is a service tool for moving the plate by calibrated
> amounts - VAG 1348/1A. It's documented in a supplement to the
> MB service manual.
>
> [volts snipped. I'll post my own later.]
>
> > The later dual knock sensor MC engine does show a different
> > air flow sensor plate assembly than what was used on the
> > early MC engine (86-88 5000TQ, 89 200TQ). The fuel
> > distributor heads between the early and late MC engines
> > have the same Bosch part number although the replacement
> > rebuilt head for the late MC does not have the internal
> > fuel pressure regulator plunger installed.
>
> Doesn't the early MC use the external valve? The MB does -
> the internal fuel pressure regulator has been replaced by
> a disc on the end of a rod to seal the chambers.
>
> > I remember Ned quoting that the stock fuel injection was
> > good to 300-325 HP, at this point, I think that figure may
> > need to be reduced a bit.
>
> I've often been told by tuners that the stock MB head is
> operating near to the limits of its performance.
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:01:16 +0200
> From: Aleksander Mierzwa <alex@matrix.com.pl>
> Subject: RE: A first car for my son - update
>
> Any of you folks made a driving licence on a 2 cylinder, air cooled,
> 650cc, 24HP, rear-engined car with drum brakes all around ? ;-)
>
> Aleksander Mierzwa
> Warsaw, Poland
> mailto:alex@matrix.com.pl
> 87 Audi 5000CS turbo (mine)
> 88 Renault Medallion wagon (mom's)
> 91 mountain bike (just in case both cars broke at the same time :-)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk
> > [SMTP:quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk]
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 1997 9:54 AM
> > To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> > Subject: A first car for my son - update
> >
> > In message <344FFC8D.4BCD6200@sni.net> Al Feldman writes:
> >
> > > Anyway, if anyone needs to teach someone how to drive a standard
> > > transmission, ...
> >
> > LOL. In one post I hear amusement about Haynes' explanation of
> > "torch" - and
> > in the next someone describing the difficulties of coming to terms
> > with manual
> > transmissions ...
> >
> > --
> > Phil Payne
> > Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:26:42 +0200
> From: Aleksander Mierzwa <alex@matrix.com.pl>
> Subject: RE: Manuals/Bentley vs. Haynes
>
> Brett wrote:
>
> >Yes, but on the other hand, the Haynes tried, in under 200
> pages the 5000:
> >-CIS
> >-CIS-III
> >-CIS-Turbo
> >-Diesel
> >AND:
> >-quattro
> >-fwd
> >AND:
> >-5000S
> >-5000CS
> >AND:
> >-auto
> >-manual(and all variations of both!)
> >AND:
> >1983 through 1998
>
> Maybe we have different edition of Haynes, but mine does not cover
> quattro or diesel versions. I doubt if there are serious differencies
> between S and CS models, as well as between 83 through 88 model years.
>
> >What were they thinking? The Bently does a _fair_ job at
> keeping you
> >straight on what notes are for what models/years, but the
> Haynes is
> >horrible. I remember, before I got my Bently set, looking in
> the Haynes to
> >try and find the hydraulic fluid container. Good luck. The
> (ONE!) picture
> >in the manual showed a 1984(?) 5000-non-turbo-quattro
> compartment.
>
> There's a detailed drawing of the container, showing all the inside
> parts. There's no difference between model years, quattro and turbo
> regarding this part.
>
> >I consider my Haynes manual a worthless piece of crap. Good
> for
> >Joe-the-gas-station-guy-who-needs-to-know-where-the-battery-is
> and that's
> >about it.
> >[...]
> >You know it's bad when...
> >...the first few pages contain a
>
> >This-is-what-an-Audi-looks-like-in-case-you-didn't-see-the-big-rings-mo
> ron
> >guide :)
> >[...]
> >I also enjoyed the section on setting stupid Americans straight
> on what a
> >"torch" is :)_
>
> Brett, I don't want to insult anyone, nor to start any international
> battle, but in country where a person won a court case against McDonald
> for serving too hot coffee (she was stupid enough to hold the cup
> between legs while driving the car and she scalded herself), I can
> understand the publisher being a little over-protective ;-)
> I'm not saying that Haynes is better than Bentley, I understand that the
> factory manual is a factory manual, period, and even number of pages
> speaks for itself, but even a not too good manual is better than no
> manual at all. Haynes has helped me many times, let take the wiring
> schematics alone. Consider the price issue, too, I got my Haynes for 20
> bucks or so and for a Benley I'd prolly have to pay at least $100 more.
> I also have Haynes for the Renault and it was very helpful in repairing
> the other car in family.
>
> Aleksander Mierzwa
> Warsaw, Poland
> mailto:alex@matrix.com.pl
> 87 Audi 5000CS turbo (mine)
> 88 Renault Medallion wagon (mom's)
> 91 mountain bike (just in case both cars broke at the same time :-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:48:22 +0200
> From: Aleksander Mierzwa <alex@matrix.com.pl>
> Subject: RE: Lights in 5000/200 front bumper?
>
> Lee wrote:
>
> >Do the lights that fit in the space provided actually deliver
> enough
> >additional light to warrant the work? Or is putting a pair of
> *small*
> >projector fogs under the bumper just as useful? (I always
> figured that
> >those projector lamps were mostly for show...)
>
> By no means! I actually have a pair of projector fogs on my car and the
> difference in lighting efficiency is awesome. I bought them at a shop
> that had all the lights nicely wired and positioned against a dark wall,
> so customers could check how they work. The projectors gave
> significantly brighter light and better light cut-off (it's very
> important if you don't want to dazzle others) than a small conventional
> fogs. And I didn't want to make my car look aggressive with any big
> lamps. Sure the projectors look cool. I'm not a poseur, but have nothing
> against it if the form follows the function.
>
> Aleksander Mierzwa
> Warsaw, Poland
> mailto:alex@matrix.com.pl
> 87 Audi 5000CS turbo (mine)
> 88 Renault Medallion wagon (mom's)
> 91 mountain bike (just in case both cars broke at the same time :-)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:14:34 -0400
> From: "Jonathan Linkov" <valiumnj@email.msn.com>
> Subject: S6 sighting in CT - are you on the list
>
> Saw a very nice looking S6 the other day in Lichtfield, CT. Plate # 325
> LAX. Red with those nice AVUS wheels. Are you on the list?
>
> Jon Linkov
> valiumnj@msn.com
> '96 A4q
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 10:51:33 UT
> From: "Ian J Haseltine" <Jim_Haseltine@classic.msn.com>
> Subject: Haynes 80/90 manual
>
> I'm looking at a very oily well used one at the moment.
>
> Haynes ref. OWM 605
> title Audi 80, 90 & Coupe
> covers 1979-1986 80 & 90, 1981-1988 Coupe
> Both 4 and 5 cylinder models, 1588cc, 1595cc, 1781cc, 1921cc, 1994cc,
> 2144cc, 2226cc.
> Not diesel or quattro.
>
> ISBN 1 85010 518 9.
>
> 420 pages but is based on UK models, so right hand drive etc.
>
> Price in the UK between 9 and 12 GBP. (about 15 to 20 USD).
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 97 11:07:51 UT
> From: "Ian J Haseltine" <Jim_Haseltine@classic.msn.com>
> Subject: RE: A Bear of a story...
>
> Can you just imagine the claims department the day this one arrives -
>
> "Hey, Joe! This guy reckons a bear tried to steal his car...."
>
> Reminds me of a tv advert that Renault used some years ago, in which two
bears
> stole a Renault 5. I think it was supposed to be based in Yellowstone,
but
> maybe the bear has relocated and moved a few steps up the income tables.
>
> Jim Haseltine
> 88 Ur quattro
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:31:46 -0400
> From: Elliott Potter <epotter@abraxis.com>
> Subject: Re: '93 Audi 90 - Power System
>
> This happened to me a while back, I recall it being related to the
> ignition lock assembly. Mine was replaced under warranty but I think
> there was a TSB or recall or something so you may be able to get it
> fixed free.
> Is the problem intermittant?
>
> HTH
>
> Elliott
>
> > helpful collective,
> >
> > any info on the following would make me smile.
> >
> > my '93 - 90 has decided to start behaving as if the ignition system is
> > not engaged. ie. electrical system behaves similarly to condition when
> > key is "in" however engine is not running.
> >
> > conditions: motor running, all system go.
> > all fuses good
> >
> > symptoms: no head lights (running lights ok)
> > no power windows
> > no turn signals
> >
> > I assume this is some sort of relay problem however I've not pin
pointed
> > the culprit. I had the dealer check my VIN for recall notice however
my
> > car came up clean for a similar ignition system problem.
> >
> > ideas?
> >
> > best, - sds
> > sds@flashpnt.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:31:15 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Graydon D. Stuckey" <graydon@apollo.gmi.edu>
> Subject: Re: 5000tq Mods
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Randall C. Markarian wrote:
>
> > they do not want to be in. The reference was to commercially available
> > "chip mods". Big turbo, no lag, fuel for more hp than I would have
> > guessed. Maybe it was a wakeup call to those who think they have the
> > most hp. Maybe it was just to share a wild ride with the list. I see
> > the glass half full, and you?
>
> I also will not get into any hissing match, but I would like to see some
> real numbers from Eric's car. A 1/4 mile would be great. even a G-tech
> or Vericom would be great - we all know that those are reasonable
> although not perfectly accurate. A 30-70 run is a fairly consistent
> test that many of us have run with our cars. A 0-60 is a little more
> variable, but certainly a fun test to try. Lets here it for the
> numbers! :-)
>
> Later,
> Graydon D. Stuckey
> ****Standard disclaimer.****
> Nothing I have said should be construed to mean anything you think I
> might have said in any way whatsoever.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:29:35 -0400
> From: "Peter G. Rossato" <rossato@erols.com>
> Subject: RE: Steering Column Switch
>
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> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 1997 5:03 PM
> To: quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net
> Subject: quattro-digest V4 #1257
>
> This is indeed a weak link in the car. Mine failed the same way causing
=
> highly irritating night time driving with the lights stuck on high beam.
=
> =20
>
> For $130 Autoparts Foreign will sell you an OEM unit that is supposedly =
> improved over the original design. I can't confirm that, although mine =
> hasn't broken yet, but it is substantially cheaper than dealer's asking =
> price of ~$300. Autoparts Foreign is in NH 1-603-382-1643. They are an
=
> excellent source for parts at very reasonable prices. They don't have =
> everything, but its well worth the call!
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:23:37 -0700
> From: russ southerlin <russell.s.southerlin@ast.lmco.com>
> Subject: Steering Column Switch
>
> Paul,
> Welcome to the list!!!!!
> - -
> You wrote:
> >My turn signal/high beam stalk flops around aimlessly fore and aft,
> therefore, the brights are always on unless I manually hold the stalk
> back halfway, which is very inconvienient.
>
> >Looking for advice: Any cheap fixes without replacing the whole
> steering column switch assembly? If not, where can I get one cheaper
> than from Audi?
>
> A common problem on the 5K's. Mine has been like that for almost a year
> now. I haven't got into it to see exactly what the cause is.=20
>
> A cheap fix: A carefully engineered wad of paper shoved in front of the
> stalk will hold it back. If you design it properly (match books work
> well) you can even adjust it so that the brights stay on with a slight
> tug on the stalk.
>
> I think someone at Audi screwed up when they designed this mechanism
> with a failure mode like this.
>
> Russ
> 87 5KTQ
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:29:29 -0700
> From: steveb@falcon.kla-tencor.com (Steven Buchholz)
> Subject: Re: to audi or not to audi
>
> Remember that you are talking about buying a brand new car ... most of=20
> those people who are doing major work are doing this on cars that are=20
> 10-15 years old! I own 5 Audis at the current time, with a combined=20
> age of 69 model years!
>
> Let me give you my impression about Audi reliability. I am convinced=20
> that the running gear that Audi builds is quite robust and can easily=20
> run 200K miles without even needing a clutch replacement (my "newest"=20
> Audi is an '85 4kQ with 204,000 miles that I got for cheap because the=20
> original clutch failed). Audi's weakess in the '80s was that it=20
> didn't do nearly as good a job on robustness for the bells and whis-
> tles (I guess the steering rack/bomb on the 5ks don't quite fit here).
=20
> In any event, IMO an older Audi without the fancy gizmos is likely to=20
> last forever with proper maintenance. I have heard that newer Audis=20
> are better in the bells and whistles department, but I cannot speak=20
> from experience. =20
>
> I could also go into my opinions on the appliances, but it is probably=20
> best not to. I think that if you bought a new Audi and observed the=20
> maintenance schedule you probably would be able to "put gas in and=20
> forget it" ...
>
> HTH!
> Steve Buchholz
> San Jose, CA (USA)
> with 69 model years' worth of Audis ...
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Orin Eman <orin@WOLFENET.com>
> Subject: Re: Audi content (but only to the extent...
>
> > Yesterday, I was served a (small claims court) subpoena, whereby she's
> > seeking $5000 compensation, claiming that because of a change in=20
> > employment status, she's no longer able to afford the ongoing medical
> > treatment required due to the agony I've inflicted upon her. =20
>
> Translation: she's broke and is trying anything for money.
>
> > I've talked with my State Farm rep, who assures me that they'll have a
> > legal eagle in court with me, but -- should the plaintiff prevail -- I
=
> eat
> > the cost, not the insurance company. =20
>
> Isn't it possible to move it out of small claims? (Standard method
> large companies use to make it too expensive to pursue...)
> I'd guess she doesn't have much of a case, or she would have a lawyer
> representing her and it wouldn't be in small claims.
>
> > Foremost on my mind: why this suit isn't between the plaintiff and the
> > insurance company... =20
>
> Good question. You'd better talk to a lawyer.
>
> Orin.
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:52:10 -0700
> From: fred smith <smitty@pcrealm.net>
> Subject: Re: Jumper posts for urq?
>
> Anton,There isn't one,but I installed one on my Urq '83.I used one from
> the 5000,make a little plate to fasten it to,and run a lead to the=20
> alternator or the starter.Mine is mounted to the screws that secure
the=20
> coolant tank and has a captive snap cover.It also serves as a place for
> 12v to power driving lights etc.
> Smitty
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:16:30 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: A Bear of a story, and looking for a good Denver body shop
>
> In message <199710231054.KAA00638@localhost.localdomain> Bob Cotton =
> writes:
>
> > - Bob
> >=20
> > '97 A4QM Heavily scratched and bear resistant.
>
> What happened to the guy with the turkey problem?
>
> - - --=20
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:13:55 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Backlit guage info
>
> In message <971023120228_274763468@emout12.mail.aol.com> =
> AudiQtroCp@aol.com writes:
>
> > I don't think there is a snowballs chance in h*ll that you will get 25
=
> people
> > to agree on anything here. The best thing for you to do is to talk to
> > someone who can mass market them, that will be the key to the price =
> problem.
>
> > I'm actually working on a set for the front lit gauges of the UrQ and =
> the 4k
> > series. But I don' t have the resources to attempt it for the backlit
> > gauges.
>
> Front-lit gauges? ur-quattro? How many?
>
> - - --=20
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:25:57 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: The Apology
>
> In message <s44f2313.080@wposmtp.nps.navy.mil> Gross Scruggs writes:
>
> > I was wondering who would do that, and I hereby proffer a megabyte =
> sized ...
>
> NO! NO! Anything but that!!! Please! Just a kilobyte sized one ...
>
> (I have to admit not noticing the original offence ...)
>
> - - --=20
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:27:52 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: to audi or not to audi
>
> In message <344f8d610.b21@coredump.newjersey.sco.com> =
> rogers@coredump.newjersey.sco.com writes:
>
> > I'm kinda scared of all those stories about rebuilding
> > engines, ...
>
> Ten years old - 148,000 miles on the same engine and transmission. One
> new clutch plate, did the top end once, and I changed the hydraulic =
> tappets
> a while back. Zero oil use between 5000 mile changes. Lead boot on =
> right
> foot.
>
> (And _HAMMERS_ BMW M3s into the ground!)
>
> - - --=20
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:13:51 -0400
> From: Jim Griffin <JGriff@pobox.com>
> Subject: Cross-threaded wheel bolt saga (long)
>
> I think that I may have told you all that NTB, this past Monday, =
> cross-threaded one of the wheel bolts on the passenger rear of my '87 VW
=
> QSW. I took it back to them on Wednesday, and yep, they snapped it off =
> inside the hub. That was at 11:30 a.m.
>
>
> All afternoon, they made a gallant effort to fix it, albeit armed with =
> pry bars, vise grips, big hammers etc. They of course had none of the =
> right tools. I told them to get in touch with the VW dealer two miles =
> down the road, but noooo... they had to try it their way first. Well, =
> after getting a new hub, and then a new bearing (after the first one was
=
> the wrong one...), they proceeded to try and install them.
>
>
> They actually did rather well (after taking off just about everything in
=
> the way... brakes, axles etc.. although I wasn't too keen on their using
=
> vise grips on the bolts that hold in the rear CV joint/axle), up until =
> they had to get the hub put into the new bearing that was pressed into =
> the axle housing (if that's what it is called). I KNOW that you need a =
> special tool for this, and I told them that, but they proceeded to take =
> big hammers, and sockets, and try to beat it in there. I was just =
> shaking my head... and trying to remain calm.
>
>
> They decided to grind down the leading edge, to try and get it =
> "started", at which point they figured all the hammering would just get =
> it to slide in. Well, that didn't work (I could have said "I told you =
> so!!"). Now, they have this new hub, somewhat disfigured, hammered into =
> the new bearing. It won't go in any further, so they try take it out. =
> But this time, it is in there so tight, that when he pulls it out, the =
> bearing falls apart (he literally pulled the front piece off, and all =
> the ball bearings fell out!!) ARRGGHHH!!!
>
>
> It is now about 6:30 p.m., and I've been there all day. I now have no =
> car... and I planned on taking it up to my TRUSTWORTHY dealership today =
> (Thursday) to take a general peek and offer advice on why sometimes the =
> shifter is a bit notchy. Well, that plan went out the window (I've =
> rescheduled for Friday). So, the whole day was a complete waste, and it =
> screws up my life for two days. All because some "misfit" can't properly
=
> hand tighten a bolt.... and make sure it is seated correctly before he =
> takes the air gun to it.
>
>
> As I sit here typing, they are having another go at it today. The =
> difference is that I FIRMLY told them that they MUST get in touch with =
> the dealership down the road, and have one of their folks come down and =
> do it, or loan them the correct tools. That was the plan... I'll find =
> out soon if it worked out okay.
>
>
> When I last called, they said that they were taking the whole control =
> arm off and bringing it down to the dealer, to have the bearing and hub =
> pressed into place. Has anyone ever heard of this before? Surely, there =
> must be a special tool or another way rather than take the whole =
> assembly off!! ARRGGHHH!!
>
>
> BTW, they were nice enough to get me a rental car for today. Of course, =
> I didn't need it... I'd drive my '92 100S before I'd get in and go =
> anywhere in that Geo Metro!! (Has anyone seen that McDonald's ad with =
> the weary traveller, who gets a "Speck" as a rental car? That's what I =
> feel like in this thing!!).
>
>
> Anyway, thanks for listening to me vent. ARRGGHHH!!
>
>
> P.S. On a positive note, when I was in having the timing belt and water =
> pump replaced on my '92 100S on Tuesday, the "ding" man was there, and =
> he said he could take out the very annoying and apparent ding in my rear
=
> quarter panel, as well two small ones in the passenger door, for =
> $75.00!! Yahoo!! I had gotten an estimate for just the one rear quarter =
> panel for $250.00!!
>
>
> You can't tell that any dings even existed!! Needless to say, I was =
> ecstatic!! Yippee!!
>
>
> At least SOMETHING went in my favor this week!!
>
>
>
>
> Jim Griffin
>
> <bold> </bold>JGriff@pobox.com
>
> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4475/
>
> <color><param>8080,0000,8080</param>
> </color>Maryland, USA
>
> "Perception is often stronger than reality!"
>
> '92 Audi 100S
>
> '87 VW Quantum Syncro Wagon
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~OOOO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:42:55 -0700
> From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
> Subject: Re: Why an SUV (OK, so there's no Audi content in this)
>
> And they are disproportionally heavy (to their utility and usage). Road =
> wear
> apparently goes up by the square of the weight increase (did that come =
> out
> right? A doubling in weight means 4 times the road wear). Maybe a tax =
> based
> on weight - no, wait, not on 3800 lbs Audis... :-)
> - - - peter
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:42:35 -0700
> From: russ southerlin <russell.s.southerlin@ast.lmco.com>
> Subject: Stock CIS, running out of gas at 2 bar?
>
> Scott,
> You wrote:
> >I don't know if the fuel distributor plunger
> continues to output more fuel all the way to the top of the
> plate travel or if it tops out earlier.
>
> I think from taking my fuel dist apart (maybe something good can come
> from destroying a fuel dist.) that once the plunger clears the top of
> internal slits that meter fuel to the injectors you would not deliver
> more fuel to the injectors with increased plunger travel given a steady
> state lambda circuit (I don't know how you could determine this point
> except by measuring plunger height). But you could deliver more fuel via
> the lambda circuit. If the ECU detected a lean condition I think it
> would try to correct it by changing the dwell on the lambda circuit
> unitil it was at a full rich condition (OXS F/V full open) in which case
> if the plunger was at full travel you would have max fuel delivery.
>
> Russ
> 87 5KTQ
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:48:24 -0700
> From: steveb@falcon.kla-tencor.com (Steven Buchholz)
> Subject: RE: 5000S Air Conditioning System Problems
>
> I was told on my urQ that the evaporator valve was plugged, making=20
> it impossible for refrigerant to flow in the circuit ... it would=20
> just build up in the pump. This problem is one I'll need to address=20
> soon ... the '85 4kQ has a similar problem. On the urQ I figure it=20
> was due to a compressor falling apart perhaps leaving bits of metal=20
> in the system.
>
> Steve Buchholz
> San Jose, CA (USA)
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:49:40 -0400
> From: "Mike Hopton" <mike@genesis-microchip.on.ca>
> Subject: V8 for sale in Toronto
>
> There is a Lago blue Audi V8 for sale in Toronto. The car is a =
> 1990,=20
> 185,000kms, automatic. Apparently it had "$3,400" work spent on it,
=
>
> don't know all the details but that includes timing belt and
water=20
> pump. Asking $9,500 CDN.... I'm not interested in this car but will
=
>
> take a look at it tomorrow morning. Since the price of V8 parts is =
> so=20
> high it seems like an excellent opportuinity to pick up some spares
=
> ;)
> =20
> .... hmmm although my wife likes automatics.
> =20
> Regards, Mike
> =20
> p.s. Big thanks go out to Audidudi Publishing Inc!
> =20
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:58:42 -0400
> From: Bill.Brace@donnelly.com
> Subject: Re: How to remove distributor; was "Turkey Noise"
>
> If yours is the same as mine there is a cover over the hold down bolt =
> for
> the distributer. The cover appears to be held in place by a large pop =
> rivit
> witha domed head. I drilled mine off and after much agravation and a
> broken drill bit or two I got the cover off to find out that the "rivit"
> was really a regular right hand thread bolt with a special breakaway =
> head.
> When originally installed they torqued it down until the head broke off.
> What I would recommend is taking a punch with a sharp point and a
> hammer. Locate the punch near an edge and tap it counterclockwise until
=
> it
> loosens - then you can unscrew it with your hand!!! Good luck and happy
> wrenching!
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:44:15 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Oil Pans & Valve Covers
>
> In message <344FC877.1A12127A@nh.ultranet.com> Huw Powell writes:
>
> > paint it high temp orange and use stove high temp black paint for the =
> logo
> > and raised ribs.
>
> ROF,L. Malcolm Lake, UK Club Events Secretary, has painted and =
> decorated his=20
> MB ur-quattro in Royal Blue and Yellow.
>
> The car is basically blue, as is the upholstery. Each seam on each =
> seat,=20
> however, is picked out in yellow piping. In the engine bay, the colour =
> scheme=20
> is continued with bright yellow gas-filled struts (the later ur-quattros
=
> have=20
> self-elevating bonnets) and the lettering picked out in bright yellow on
=
> a blue=20
> powder-coated ground. =20
>
> - - --=20
> Phil Payne
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> - ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:07:17 -0700
> From: ptimmerm@mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV
> Subject: Re: quattro-digest V4 #1256
>
> >If my vote counts for anything, your offense rates the 'wool underwear'
> >penance at a maximum. What say ye, gentlemen of the jury?
>
> I vow to reduce it to one month of a stuck on seat heater. ;-)
>
> paul timmerman
>
> =20
>
> - ------------------------------
>
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