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RE: Trans failure? Need help!!



Hi Steve,
I've been sending this to a few others on the list.  Note:  I don't know
about the other symptoms, but the cold 1st gear thing is indicative of a
dying tranny.  Ref. the attached.

Good Luck

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Gary M. Lewis
1986 5000   CS Turbo 5 Speed   194,000 miles (and counting...)
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> ----------
> From: 	Sachelle Babbar[SMTP:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, April 14, 1998 5:49 AM
> To: 	quattrolist
> Subject: 	Trans failure? Need help!!
> 
> I had a problem with my slushbox last night. This is the problem (no,
> I
> didn't blow it with all the boost I'm running): No reverse. I have all
> forward ranges (shifts better than it's ever had before), but neutral
> is a
> slipping drive range, reverse is drive and reverse, so it doesn't go
> anywhere, park is drive, but locked; the car doesn't move. I have to
> start
> with my foot on the brake to avoid accidents . It won't move, but
> still. I
> don't know if the problem is due to the Militec I used (and had
> problems
> with). I figure from my (above average) knowledge of a/t's that a
> forward
> band solenoid isn't releasing for whatever reason. Possibly a clogged
> return. Not five minutes before, I drove the car from the library to
> my
> house (not two minutes away) with no trouble. Side symptoms: When
> starting
> on a cold morning, the trans doesn't shift out of first gear. It takes
> some finagling with the shifter to get it to shift. Once mildly warm,
> no
> trouble. I put a cleaner in last night hoping that helps, but nothing.
> I
> was thinking that the next step is to change the fluid, but I think
> I'll
> go straight to my last step which is to remove and clean the valve
> body.
> Any btdt's? I can't afford another trans rebuilt or used. I do know
> that
> the trans is good; rebuilt a year before I got the car and reverse is
> engaging, just drive is not disengaging. Please help! TIA!!
> 
> 
> 
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> *Steve                                       Sachelle Babbar
> *'84  5ksT 1.6-2.0 bar                    <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
> *Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
> *
> *Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my
> own
> *personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use
> caution as
> *your results may vary from mine."
> **********************************************************************
> **********
> 


Peter,
    It's possible.  If the fluid is burnt, it may have altered its
properties somewhat, and is no longer able to provide your trans with
the lubrication/viscosity it needs.  One good indication is your car
only has 75k miles.  Most autotrans on Audi's seem to die around 100K
miles.  You can get it done at the East coast version of Jiffy Lube, for
like $50.  Just make sure they flush, not drain, your tranny.  And it
may still slip for up to a week after.  But if it continues to slip,
you're screwed.  New trans time.

Good Luck,
Gary

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> From: 	P Rossato[SMTP:rossato@erols.com]
> Sent: 	Monday, March 16, 1998 2:22 PM
> To: 	'Lewis, Gary M'
> Subject: 	RE: 5KS Transmission Repair/Replacement
> 
> Gary,
> 
> I appreciate the advice.  Are you saying that I may just have gunky
> fluid, not 
> a mechanical failure or wear?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Lewis, Gary M [SMTP:Gary.Lewis@West.Boeing.com]
> Sent:	Monday, March 16, 1998 2:13 PM
> To:	'P Rossato'; Thatch, James M
> Subject:	RE: 5KS Transmission Repair/Replacement
> Importance:	High
> 
> My buddy has an 85 5000s wagon.  Has the EXACT same problem.  His
> (our)
> mechanic first suggested a flush (note:not just drain).  A flush is a
> multi-step process where you drain fluid, top up tranny, run the car,
> drain fluid, top up tranny, run the car, etc.  The reason for this is
> that the Torque Converter holds a bunch of Trans fluid, but there is
> no
> way to directly drain it.  If this doesn't solve the problem, you've
> got
> about 15k miles (or less, probably less), before it's new tranny time.
> My mechanic (Q-List recommended - Mike Rooney in L.A.) is an honest
> guy
> and could have easily taken my buddy for $1,000+ for a new trans.  He
> said people don't replace the fluid regularly and if the fluid goes
> bad,
> tranny can slip (but it usually DIES).  Make sure you warm the car up
> before driving it.  It's what my buddy does, and his Tranny is still
> operating.
> 
> Good Luck,
> Gary
> 86 5kcst 5sp
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	P Rossato[SMTP:rossato@erols.com]
> > Sent: 	Monday, March 16, 1998 7:53 AM
> > To: 	'quattro@coimbra.ans.net'
> > Subject: 	5KS Transmission Repair/Replacement
> >
> > I am not a subscriber to the digest and would, therefore, appreciate
> a
> > direct
> > reply to the following:
> >
> > I have a 5000S wagon (1987, no turbo, no quattro) that I need to
> sell
> > to make
> > room for a new car, but it has what I believe are terminal
> > transmission
> > problems.  It's an automatic with over 75k miles.  When I start the
> > car it will
> > either remain stuck in neutral for a few minutes, or remain stuck in
> > first gear
> > for some time until it finally shifts.  This doesn't seem to be
> > related to ATF
> > temperature, because it will turn to semi normal fairly quickly.  I
> > say semi
> > normal because I feel that even when the transmission shifts, the
> car
> > is
> > somewhat sluggish and suspect more transmission problems.
> >
> > So,  is this a sign of a dying transmission?  Can it be repaired,
> > economically
> > that is.  Am I better off searching junkyards for a transmission?
> Any
> > leads on
> > a good source for the lowest cost in the Maryland area?  Has anyone
> > replaced
> > their own transmission?  How tough a job is it?  Is it worth having
> it
> > done
> > professionally?  I have a quote of $385 for labor only.  That's
> about
> > an 8 hour
> > job at $50+ an hour.  I figure it's at least!! a weekend for me.
> >
> > Anyone in the MD/VA area interested in a sick 5K wagon that can be
> > made
> > healthy?  I would be very reasonable in pricing!
> >
> > Thanks all
> > Peter Rossato
> >
> >
>