Gearboxes: type 016 UW and 3U...V8 conversion?

[Bill Witt <bwitt@thunderworks.com>]

Hello,
I am very interested in a V8 auto to manual conversion.  Several shops in
the Denver area have suggested this is just too complicated.  After seeing
Allison 1200 HP aircraft motors in MB sedans, it would seem the trans
conversion would be easier.
There has also been some interest in the Colorado area on supercharging a V8.
Would seem to me the core auto trans might pay for the parts to do the
conversion.  
Lots of clutch pedal type kits in hotrod mags where engine/trans
conversions are routine.
Maybe if there is enough interest among V8 owners, a shop could be
'convinced' to put together a kit of parts, etc.

Any thoughts, ideas, directions for help, past articles, ongoing projects,
etc.

Thanks in advance 

Bill Witt



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>From: gerard@dockside.co.za
>Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:25:11 -0800
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>Subject: Gearboxes: type 016 UW and 3U...
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>Hi!
>
>Silly questions ahead on gearboxes for auto to manual
>conversion.
>
>I have found a 016 UW gearbox, these were used on the
>older 100 models from 1979 to late 1980. In my Haynes
>manual there is another 016 box listed, the 3U. The book is
>for the 100 and 200 models from 1982 to 1990. The ratios
>on the 3U seem slightly better than that for the UW. The
>guy who has the UW box says that box is the best ratios
>for the car (interpreted as: I only have this one, you're
>going to buy it!). Ratios are:
>
>	016 UW (1979 - 1980)		016 3U
>1st:	3.60:1				3.60:1
>2nd:	1.94:1				1.88:1
>3rd:	1.23:1				1.19:1
>4th:	0.903:1				0.84:1
>5th:	0.684:1				0.64:1
>F/D:	3.89:1				3.89:1
>R:	3.50:1				3.50:1
>
>Questions (I haven't asked these before :) )
>
>1. What car had the 016 UW 'box?
>2. What car had the 016 3U 'box?
>3. Interchangeable? I.e, bolts right on to MC motor? (I
>   was told by the guy with the 'box that it was usually
>   used with the WC motor [??]
>4. The 016 AAZ is about the most popular manual box around
>   that was used on the 500SE and 500E (the 100), but the
>   ratios are "too close". The AAZ would probably make a
>   easy pulling 'box, but anyone with gearbox experience
>   able to say how a 125kW / 240Nm MC would go with the
>   UW or 3U fitted? Anyone using a 016 3U?
>5. Anyone reckon these ratios look like they're more
>   comfortable in the V8? :)
>6. I am assuming that the 016 boxes all had the same size
>   and shape housings, right?
>
>Apparently, Audi manual gearboxes are used quite alot on
>V8-powered kit cars. I have it from a builder that the UW
>was used on some of the kits he built.
>
>Sorry for asking the silly questions. My auto tranny is
>whining and not very smooth sometimes and converting (through
>a friend) might just as well cost the same as repairing the
>auto 'box. Go figure.
>
>Thanks,
>G.
>
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