Guys, Just to give a comparison for the UFO brakes vs the regular brakes, My 4000 pound V8 with stock UFOs stops much faster than my ex 3350 pound 5KCSTQ with ATE powerstops and Performance Friction pads. Even if I thought they were equal, the difference in weight alone is enough to prove that the UFOs are far superior. Later, Graydon D. Stuckey '91 V8 Quattro 5-speed