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RE: modern sub cu ft needs/stereo discussion



I just purchased a 12" pioneer sub, it requires 1.1 cu. ft. +/- 10%
Josh Wheeler


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	auditude [SMTP:auditude@impulsedata.net]
	Sent:	Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:17 AM
	To:	quattro@audifans.com
	Subject:	modern sub cu ft needs/stereo discussion

	Hey I was at a stereo shop the other day, getting some better
quality wire 
	than is available from the car parts store to rewire my nasty
starter solenoid 
	cable for my 4ksq, so I can do a compression test on it (yes, things
take 
	time!), and I inquired about their subwoofer boxes they had.

	The ones they had were about 1.3 cu ft a side.  IIRC, my brand new
reconed 
	Cerwin Vega 12"s (with blue cones!) take something on the order of
2.33 cu 
	ft each, ported.

	The guy at the stereo shop said that that was one of the drawbacks
to CV's.

	I know Kicker's used to not take much room.  The regular ones from a
few 
	years back required 2.0 for the 12"s, and 3.0 for the 15"s (Once had
two 
	15"s in the back of a Toy' truck with a shell, and about 175w rms to
each.  
	Can't remember if it ever had the PPI 2300 hooked up to those.)

	Newer subs take even less room it seems.  What kind of airspace to 
	modern, current subs require?  Are the freeair/solobaric type subs 
	comparable to sound quality/characteristics to "regular" subs?

	I'm not spending any money on stereo stuff for a while, I'm mostly
curious. 

	I understand I can "clamshell" my 4 12"s to run two pairs as one
pair, which 
	would reduce the required box size, but I wasn't planning on making
just one 
	sub box.

	As for musical types, I listen to all types, with the exception of
maybe 
	country western.  Most often, I listen to various types of techno
and ambient 
	music, with the second most often being alternative and who knows.
	Jason Bentley's Metropolis type music for those that know.  Damn I
miss 
	that show here in AZ.

	I suppose I'm less concerned about trunk space and weight, as long
as it 
	doesn't interfere in normal, local city type driving and
grocery-getting.

	Later,

	Ken