Re: Is it toast? (Flame bait)

[Caholland01@cs.com]

In a message dated 12/6/99 5:29:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
RGlist00@hotmail.com writes:

> Original poster said "jack kept collapsing as I would give the lugs the
>  final twist to take the wheel off." In my opinion, jacks should be able to
>  withstand wheel removal without collapsing. Though, I've always loosened 
the
>  lugs before getting her in the air. Minimize time and force applied while 
on
>  jack, but I wouldn't say jack stands are necessary to, say, change a flat.
>  Would you?
>  

I wasn't asking too much of the jack...i could have taken the lugs out with 
my fingers if I could reach into the holes to twist them...but I got one lug 
out and the jack fell forward.  The second time, the tire was completely off 
the car and that corner landed (softly) on its rotor.  I've never had that 
happen on any of my other cars, and never expected it to happen twice!

Fortunately there was enough clearance to jack the car up again to get the 
tire back on.

--C