Off an '88 5000s wagon. OEM Audi 14" alloys. smooth type not BBS type. Very good shape with decent D60A2 dunlops. 4 lug. $125 buys 'em Went to a 15" wheel. Contact me at Pianofxr@compuserve.com or 800-470-2213 New York's Hudson Valley Andrew Vincitore