Re: Fender rolling method?

[John Karasaki <johkar@teleport.com>]

At 09:20 AM 11/17/98 -0500, ANDREW FINNEY wrote:
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>I did a lot of research into this subject two years ago when I had my
>UrQ stripped to bare metal and repainted. The conclusion was that it is
>not worth it unless you get it done from Max at AVS who has a very
>expensive "official" tool to do the rolling. He wants a lot of money for
>the operation.

Has anyone actually SEEN any of the fender rolling jobs Max has done?
Everyone talks about how that is the ONLY way to do it properly (probably
because Max told them that), but NO ONE that I have spoken with has
actually seen examples of the finished product.

Having said that, I have seen a couple of baseball bat fender rolling jobs
on urqs.  Craig Hillis' urq is an example of how it can be done without
screwing up the fenders.  He indicated that although he has zero body work
experience, the key was removing all the undercoating with a wire wheel
BEFORE trying to roll the lip up.  He did his in one evening (less than 4
hours) with alot of patience.

I have not done mine because I have at least 2-3 sets of 7.5" and 8" wide
wheels that fit under there without any problems AND I'm not the patient
sort.  I'd surely rush the job and kink something.

If anyone has any real experience with the AVS rolling machine, please post
your opinions to the list.  Thanks.


 There are listers that have dented their fenders using
>the baseball bat method. My body shop told me they wouldn't do it, there
>was too likely a chance of ruining the sheet metal. That fender lip is a
>very thick serious component of the body integrity. I didn't want to
>have to place a lot of bondo to revive the panels. If you want fat tires
>on your UrQ go with a 7.5 inch or 8 inch wheel with a 35mm offset. I'm
>going with Compomotives. I have a survey of listers' tire and wheel
>combos and when I finally get back to my office from my field assignment
>I will repost it to the list. My advise, stay away from fender rolling.
>The factory appears to have rolled the lips before welding, not
>afterwards. Also, it is my opinion that although the Fuchs look great,
>they don't do any more than the 6" Ronals to fill the wheel wells. HTH.
>
>Andrew Finney
>1983 UrQ.
>
>
Best Regards,

John Karasaki
Portland, OR