In message <3.0.1.32.19990410164955.01107044@pop3.thevine.net> "Frank J. Bauer" writes: > an equally crappy 22mm will slip as easily. > try putting a hose clamp on your socket so it won't spread while you are > turning it. CHING! Another nugget archived! -- Phil Payne Phone: 0385 302803 Fax: 01536 723021 (The contents of this post will _NOT_ appear in the UK Newsletter.)