RE:

[quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)]

In message <0.689b10d.253c6a69@aol.com> QSHIPQ@aol.com writes:

> Which confirms my event v nonevent proposition on Friday.  "... Minor steerig
> input is necessary..."  means that a car with a classic turn execution will
> be faster thru same.  Hoping for you, that "minor" never...

When I say minor, I mean minor.  Two or three degrees of opposite lock,
remaining constant whatever the slip.

> I see light at the end of the tunnel.  Phil needs a retraction of conclusions
> right off the bat,

All of your arguments try to support a proposition that spider bite is
inevitable in a Torsen-centre car.  If this were the case, people would
have been killed and there would long since have been a recall like the
current TT one.  'Sixty Minutes', Spiegel, Top Gear and last but not
least the UK Audi quattro Owners Club would have beaten Audi to a pulp.

The simple fact is - on a properly maintained car (like mine) aligned
with the stock settings spider bite flat doesn't happen.  You can
produce as many theories and read as many SAE papers as you like -
you're not going to magick the phenomenon out of the air.  There's a
bunch of about a dozen Torsen drivers in the UK Club (Roger Galvin also
has two, John Robinson, Graham Caddy, Richard Simmonds also with two,
etc.) who haven't a clue what you're talking about.  John Robinson and I
have over 300k miles in Torsen ur-quattros as daily drivers in all
weathers - four wheel drifts being the order of the day.  Not a trace -
not even _ONCE_ except in a badly aligned car which I spotted on the
first day I owned it.  John's is the uprated MB featured in Dave
Pollard's book, BTW - and if anyone thinks I'm a hairy driver ...

If you experience it again - your car's broke.

--
 Phil Payne
 UK Audi quattro Owners Club
 Phone: 07785 302803   Fax: 0870 0883933